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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Chris Lawrence</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Webmaker Community Team</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><a href="mailto:clawrence@mozillafoundation.org">clawrence@mozillafoundation.org</a> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><a href="http://www.clawrence.org">http://www.clawrence.org</a></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">@chrislarry33</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">SKYPE: chrislarry33</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">Mobile: 718-757-0843</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">G+ <a href="http://bit.ly/gclaw33" class="bitmark-shortlink"><span class="protocol">http://</span>bit.ly/gclaw33</a></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><br></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div></div>
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<br><div style=""><div>On Apr 7, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Brett Gaylor <<a href="mailto:brett@mozillafoundation.org">brett@mozillafoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Our pledge was that we were going to blog each Friday and user facing changes, and to share these with the webmaker list. This particular feature change seems to have slipped by, likely due to the chaos of the last two weeks.<div><br></div><div>Matt, could you add this to a "What's change in Webmaker" blog post? We could probably add a few other things that shipped last week.</div><div><br><div><div>On 2014-04-07, at 11:49 AM, Doug Belshaw <<a href="mailto:doug@mozillafoundation.org">doug@mozillafoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>I thought I was doing something wrong! Perhaps a little information box saying "hey, we've changed something!" For logged-in users?<br><br>-----<div>Doug Belshaw</div><div>Web Literacy Lead</div><div>Mozilla Foundation</div><div><br></div><div>Current timezone: BST (UTC +1)</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://webmaker.org/">http://webmaker.org</a></div><div><a href="http://openbadges.org/">http://openbadges.org</a></div><div><a href="http://dougbelshaw.com/">http://dougbelshaw.com</a></div></div><div><br>On 7 Apr 2014, at 19:13, Brett Gaylor <<a href="mailto:brett@etherworks.ca">brett@etherworks.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252">Hi, all. This is to sort out the rather pressing problem where anytime anyone re-named their make, it would dissapear. We need a way for URLs to stay consistent.<div><br></div><div>As for the "saying out loud" piece, there's lots of ways we can get around that. Consider youtube - normally when referring someone, you'd ask them to search, or tell them to go to such and such channel and refer from there. Because youtube, and pretty much all other sites, need to identify content with URLs that don't duplicate.</div><div><br></div><div>Medium:</div><div><a href="https://medium.com/p/7645a4bf8a2">https://medium.com/p/7645a4bf8a2</a></div><div><br></div><div>Twitter:</div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/asadotzler/status/452877968524603392">https://twitter.com/asadotzler/status/452877968524603392</a></div><div><br></div><div>youtube:</div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySZHeosB0rI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySZHeosB0rI</a></div><div><br></div><div>So for us, we should be asking people to do a search, or listing the resource in a gallery that they can visit that does have a more pronounceable URL.</div><div><br></div><div>Brett</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 2014-04-07, at 10:28 AM, Laura Hilliger <<a href="mailto:laura@mozillafoundation.org">laura@mozillafoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I could have started with that :/<div><br></div><div><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=993023">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=993023</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<br><div style=""><div>On Apr 7, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Chris Lawrence <<a href="mailto:clawrence@mozillafoundation.org">clawrence@mozillafoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Have the appropriate bugs been filed?<div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
<div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Chris Lawrence</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Webmaker Community Team</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a href="mailto:clawrence@mozillafoundation.org">clawrence@mozillafoundation.org</a> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a href="http://www.clawrence.org/">http://www.clawrence.org</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">@chrislarry33</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">SKYPE: chrislarry33</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Mobile: 718-757-0843</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">G+ <a href="http://bit.ly/gclaw33" class="bitmark-shortlink"><span class="protocol">http://</span>bit.ly/gclaw33</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></div></div>
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<br><div style=""><div>On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Julia Vallera <<a href="mailto:julia@mozillafoundation.org">julia@mozillafoundation.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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+1 been noticing this as well. Difficult for youth/teachers to write
down. Is it possible to have a "this name has already been used"
warning when naming projects?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">+1. Have run into issues with this already today.
The gibberish makes it really hard to remember and find makes.
Perhaps another way to reduce duplication while still keeping
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noticing this today and I’m flagging it as Crossteam
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<div>The new Thimble URLs have strings of letters and
numbers, and I feel like we didn’t talk about this (I
wasn’t in the last Crossteam call and Bugzilla hates me,
so excuse me if I just missed the conversation).</div>
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<div>JBuck said it was to avoid duplicate titles, but from
the people side, this makes things difficult.
Particularly when teaching, as we tend to say URLs out
loud, write them on big sheets of paper and otherwise
share in a non-digital copy/paste kind of way. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://twitter.com/epilepticrabbit/statuses/453081014769057792" target="_blank">Not to mention power users who
actually remember URLs</a> :P</div>
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<td style="padding:0em 0px 0px 1em"><strong style="font-size:1.2em">Laura Hilliger</strong><br>
Training & Curriculum Lead<br>
Mozilla Foundation<br>
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Email:<span> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:laura@mozillafoundation.org" target="_blank">laura@mozillafoundation.org</a><br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://webmaker.org/" target="_blank">webmaker.org</a></td>
<td style="padding:1em 0px 1em 1em"><b style="font-size:1.2em">Michelle Thorne</b><br>
Global Strategist<br>
Mozilla Foundation<br>
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Email:<span> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:michelle@mozillafoundation.org" target="_blank">michelle@mozillafoundation.org</a><br>
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Hive NYC, Mozilla Foundation
Twitter: @colorwheelz
Skype: time2talk2julia</pre>
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