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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/29/21 7:05 AM, The Wanderer wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 2021-03-29 at 06:43, Wayne Mery wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Your concerns, suggested alternatives, and even offers of hosting
have been welcome. Fortunately Topicbox covers many of the issues
raised (including no google groups) and no show stoppers have
emerged.
Topicbox’s slogan is “Group email for teams”. It works like a mailing
list, and indeed by default subscribers receive emails of all posts.
It also has a decent web UI.
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I'm a little leery of any forum which tries to provide both an E-mail
interface and a Web interface, because it's almost inevitably going to
provide subpar service on one or the other, due to the differing
fundamental assumptions and expectations of each.
Still, I'll reserve judgment on this till I've seen it in action; if
nothing else, the descriptions so far would seem to imply that Topicbox
is in fact oriented to cater to E-mail first and has the Web interface
as the afterthought, which would fit with my preferred biases. I also
have some amount of trust for Fastmail (as you may be able to see), with
which I understand Topicbox to be affiliated.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">We have successful UX, e2ee, and Add-on Development groups already on
Topicbox, so this is an opportunity to provide a unified service to
all Thunderbird discussions. The list below describes the changes
needed to complete the consolidation.
ML=mailing list, NG=newsgroup
New groups on Topicbox:
* Thunderbird Planning, replacing tb-planning ML
* Thunderbird Enterprise, replacing tb-enterprise ML
* Thunderbird Support Crew, replacing tb-support-crew ML
* Thunderbird Developers, replacing mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird NG,
mozilla.dev.apps.calendar NG, dev-apps-thunderbird ML, maildev ML
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Will the List-Id: headers for these mailing lists be changing? I'm
guessing probably yes, but I'd like to have some notice of what to
expect in that regard. I use that header to filter list mail into
specific folders for later reading, and it'd be a pain to start
receiving mail from a new list that doesn't get filtered and then have
to not only update the filter but go back and move everything that
arrived in the meantime.
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<p>You should expect <br>
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<pre>List-Id: "Thunderbird Planning" <planning.discuss.thunderbird.net>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Thunderbird Planning at Topicbox is open now for subscriptions,
however it is not yet open for postings - please continue posting
here until new instructions are posted.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/_tojoin">https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/_tojoin</a> provides a
subscription button for each group. Each venue being retired will be
receiving instructions, because no one will be automatically
enrolled.
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That linked signup-interface page requires JavaScript, which is an
unnecessary retrograde step compared to mailman. I can live with it if
mandated, but I find it a distinct negative, and want to express my
dissatisfaction with it. I hope to (eventually) find a Topicbox feedback
location where I can express that sentiment to them more directly.</pre>
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<p>That would be appropriate. Topicbox feature and bug reports
should be directed to Topicbox, not to Thunderbird groups. Thanks.</p>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">What should we expect timing-wise with regard to when we'll want to
start signing up at the new location? </pre>
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<p>As stated, it is open now for subscriptions. That applies to all
groups listed at Topicbox. <br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Should we wait until the new instructions you reference are posted, or should we just sign up there
now and stay around here until further notice? </pre>
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As stated, please wait until information has been posted here saying
the new venue is open for posting.
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