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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.01.21 um 12:22 schrieb Will
Mische:<br>
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Because this is how transparent organisations do business - open and
clear.
It isn't for the 'Council' to decide what is important or not.
They should have a published Agenda - pre meeting. Interested
participants should be able to ask for items to be added to said
Agenda for discussion within say 72 hours of a meeting.</pre>
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<p>Exactly.<br>
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<p>+1</p>
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There should be a secretary to take minutes - it isn't hard - and
possibly someone independent.
Those minutes should be clear, accurate, comprehensive, and disseminated
promptly - by all means do a short TL;DR for those who don't want to
see the full minutes. But full minutes should be available somewhere
accessible, and that should include who said what.
If you are too embarrassed for your opinion to be published then
you probably should not be on the board.
Unless there are serious privacy issues then finances or other
information should be published.
That's all pretty standard
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<p>+1</p>
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<p>Magnus answered:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">This is the "real-time" requirement which
is clearly not possible.
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<p>You've misunderstood what we asked for. "real-time" would be a
public Etherpad, where non-Council member can see every keystoke,
as the secretary types, while the meeting is ongoing. That's
certainly possible with Etherpad. Nothing stops you from doing
that. While I was on the TB Council board, we took notes during
the meeting on a Wiki. To my knowledge, nothing substantially
changed since then. So, yes, it is definitely possible to have
actual real-time notes.</p>
<p>But <i>nobody asked for that</i>, and nobody asked for "real
time". You're doing your classic "straw man" rhetoric strategy
again, where you're claiming that something is impossible, which
actually nobody asked for.</p>
<p>We asked for 2-3 days after the meeting, not "real time". And
that *is* standard. I can confirm what others said here. I am on
other bodies where decisions are taken, and there's somebody
appointed to take notes, and he sends them within 1-3 days. It's
very rare that anybody objects the notes. This works in other
bodies. Claiming that it's "impossible" is quite obviously false.<br>
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<p>A body that's quibbling about the meeting notes is a clear sign
of a dysfunctional body. Because the notes are just the most basic
thing.<br>
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<p>Ben<br>
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