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<font face="Century Gothic">Thanks for sharing this information. I
think TB is going in the right direction.</font><br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in; line-height: 100%">Roland Stiner,
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/7/2020 1:58 PM, Patrick Cloke
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<p>Hi all, please see the minutes from our September 28, 2020
meeting. Note that this meeting was before our election so had
the council members from last term. I must personally apologize
for the extreme delay on these notes as I had some personal
events that came up and kept me from mailing an approved version
of this! Sorry about that.</p>
<p>--Patrick</p>
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<p>Thunderbird Project Council Meeting <br>
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<p>When: September 28, 2020 at 9:00 PM CEST to 10:30 PM CEST<br>
Minuter: Patrick<br>
In the call: Magnus, Philipp, Wayne, Berna, Patrick, Ryan<br>
Guest: Brian Behlendorf</p>
<h3>Motions</h3>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(67, 67, 67); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" id="docs-internal-guid-c4396cd6-7fff-f4fe-35fa-e73d4f48ef02"></span>"Publish
the complete voting record of all council members on all
motions excluding PII and confidential information in the
regular minutes."<br>
</li>
<ul>
<li>This motion was put forth by Berna, seconded by Ryan, and
passed unanimously.</li>
</ul>
<li>"Publish the document containing the Thunderbird Council
election process publicly on the Mozilla Wiki."</li>
<ul>
<li>This motion was put forth by Patrick, seconded by Philipp,
and passed unanimously.</li>
<li>Patrick took an action to publish this and email
tb-planning.<br>
</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<h3>Product / Strategy</h3>
<ul>
<li>Wayne shared some conversation he has been having with
Internews:<br>
Internews have has potential resources to work with us to a)
improve user interface and experience, and b) evaluate what
resources are needed for user support, and help build it out
with our existing resources, with the potential to hire
additional resources if needed. Internews has experience in
the encryption space, and supporting PGP in Thunderbird is
important to the communities they engage with. <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://globaltech.internews.org/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://globaltech.internews.org/</a>
discusses their work on digital safety and digital rights,
which itself is part of Internews' larger strategic goals.</li>
<li>OpenPGP Audit summary sent to council. Berna to forward an
email from the Sequoia PGP team to Kai on the bugs they have
filed to determine if these have already been covered in the
audit report.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<h3>Governance</h3>
<ul>
<li>There was a brief discussion of whether the Thunderbird
council email address was open to external emails and if
people have had issues with this.</li>
<ul>
<li>External emails to it should work fine -- if you have
issues please contact a Council member directly.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<li>There was rather a long discussion about the Community
Participation Guidelines, some highlights include:</li>
<ul>
<li>Patrick and Wayne sharing that multiple have reached out
about not wanting to participate in this year's election due
to some of the interactions in the community.</li>
<li>Brian offered some thoughts as an outside perspective.</li>
<li>Based on Berna’s experience with the CPG team, she stated
that interacting with the Mozilla CPG group is not very
transparent and gives poor answers. She is also concerned
that the CPG team does not discuss with all of the parties.<br>
</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<h3>Miscellaneous</h3>
<ul>
<li> Ryan offered some ideas of understanding community metrics.</li>
<ul>
<li>He is trying to better understand who is in our community
and the health of the community.</li>
<li>A discussion ensued of how people get help when they're
first introduced to the community.</li>
<li>A few ideas were floated about doing unbiased surveys of
different pieces of the community (developers, users, etc.)</li>
<ul>
<li> If anyone is interested in pursuing this, please let us
know!</li>
</ul>
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