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<p>On 9/27/20 2:58 PM, Berna Alp wrote:<br>
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I wanted to pick up on the confict of interest thread:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/22/20 1:43 PM, Magnus Melin
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:233d58f6-f845-69cc-b62e-0bcfab296a89@iki.fi">Conflicts
of interest are handled by recusing oneself from specific votes
(or discussions) where one would have an obvious conflict of
interest. </blockquote>
Here is a good example of why this self regulation is not working
at the moment:<br>
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Meeting notes from 2020-02-20<br>
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none;">In the call: Magnus, Ryan, Wayne, Patrick, Jörg,
Philipp</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color:
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<li>Elections - Motion from Philipp to update the election
organization/association/unit rules to add MZLA: The 'Mozilla
Corporation' [1], the 'Mozilla Foundation', and ‘MZLA
Technologies’ are (considered) separate companies for purposes
of "professional affiliation". Motion passed: 5 yes, 1 abstain</li>
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A motion was put forward by Philipp, who has a conflict of
interest. Then it should also never have been seconded. And at
least 3 people would have had to abstain for conflict of interest
on this vote because they are employed by the entities in
question. <br>
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Hence it is clear that self regulation and recusing oneself is
clearly not up to best practice yet. Hence I remain of the opinion
that it should be clearly defined in our by-laws. From any legal
or accounting point of view, these three entities are one and the
same entity. What should be the status of such motions and votes?<br>
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I will keep pushing for rules and by-laws that will clarify what
is acceptable transparently and prevent future issues with
conflict of interest topics. <br>
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Regards,<br>
-ba<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation"
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<p>As the person who seconded this, the reason I did so was that it
was about updating the text of the election process to be
accurate. The old text of referred to "The Mozilla Corporation,
the Mozilla Foundation, and the Thunderbird project", once MZLA
Technologies was formed this needed to be updated. So this motion
was essentially changing "Thunderbird project" to "MZLA
Technologies".</p>
<p>This same rule has been used for the last several elections.</p>
<p>--Patrick<br>
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