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<p>I don't understand what the reasoning would be for preventing
MoCo people to hold seats? They aren't paid by Thunderbird/MZLA
and some of our most most active and longest engaged contributors
work at the corporation. It seems like discouraging them from
being involved without good reason.</p>
<p>I understand concern about people who are working for Thunderbird
who could set their own salary or something like that. But Philipp
and others like him at MoCo contribute in their free time like any
other volunteer, and oftentimes go above and beyond to help us
with exceptionally hard platform issues. Their contributions are
invaluable. So you either disenfranchise employees (who already
can only have two seats), or you disenfranchise a very active
group of contributors who have nothing to personally gain from
participating on Council.</p>
<p>I don't see the logic.<br>
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<p>Ryan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-09-27 21:58, Berna Alp wrote:<br>
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<li>Elections - Motion from Philipp to update the election
organization/association/unit rules to add MZLA: The
'Mozilla Corporation' [1], the 'Mozilla Foundation', and
‘MZLA Technologies’ are (considered) separate companies for
purposes of "professional affiliation". Motion passed: 5
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A motion was put forward by Philipp, who has a conflict of
interest. Then it should also never have been seconded. And at
least 3 people would have had to abstain for conflict of
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<p>That rule was agreed upon for two simple reasons:<br>
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<li>prevent that an inner circle of staff on council from
driving up the salaries for them selves<br>
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<li>prevent a rough takeover by some 3rd party</li>
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<p>None of these reasons have any relevance across the Mozilla
organizational borders: MZLA does not set salaries for MoFo/MoCo
employees or any other way around. MoFo, nor MoCo could (within
reasonable fantasy) have any reason to want to do a rough
takeover.</p>
<p> -Magnus<br>
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