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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you, Walter. You are correct, I
failed to communicate a step. Initially when we ship NN.0 even
manual updates are disabled. Thus, all users will for a period of
time (perhaps 3-4 weeks) only see an update of 68.9.0 ->
69.10.0, which will be automatic.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">However, at some point the rules will
be changed, typically in bursts of a couple days, so that manual
update attempts will get 78 in short bursts. And then in the 78.2
time frame I expect, as I previously posted, that automatic
updates will gradually be phased in more strongly. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In other words, extension developers do
not have a full three months to prepare extensions. Note, even on
day one many users download the new version just because they are
eager to get it. And ISTR last year we had many tens of thousands
of version 68 users in the first month - it's not a spigot that we
can fully control. I anticipate a million or two users on 78 by
September 1.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">To conclude, you don't want to be
ramping up add-on development in late July and August. Extension
developers will want to :</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> a) start their work now, if they did
not already start during the beta 78 period</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">b) ask questions and assist other
developers in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/addons/">https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/addons/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">c) file bugs now for missing API
functionally needed for their add-on, if they did not already do
so during the beta 78 period</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">d) help bring the developer
documentation up to speed<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hope that helps.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/26/20 11:44 AM, Walter L Schwartz
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<p><font face="tt">Wayne,<br>
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<p><font face="tt">So I will get 78.0 and not 68.10 when I do a
Help > About Thunderbird using my 68.9.0?</font></p>
<p><font face="tt">I thought users of the 68.x.x version didn't
get updated until 78.3 was released giving extension
developers at least until approximately </font><font
face="tt">2020-09-22 to get extensions working for all users.</font></p>
<p><font face="tt"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Calendar"
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<p><font face="tt">Those that download and install separately
should be a minority.</font></p>
<p>Walt<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/26/20 10:55 AM, Wayne wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I, and all of us, would dearly love
to have many more add-ons compatible when ESR goes live.
However there are other considerations which compete with this
desire, and so 78.0 must go forward.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Beta 78 will continue to be
available for one more week to help add-on developers. And in
one week 78.0 will go live but with automatic updates disabled
- meaning users can only get it if they intentionally,
manually update. Or they download it from somewhere. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/25/20 5:24 PM, Axel Grude
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release date, and betas<br>
<b>From:</b>Wayne Mery <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:vseerror@lehigh.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"><vseerror@lehigh.edu></a><br>
<b>To:</b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:Tb-planning@mozilla.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">Tb-planning@mozilla.org</a> <a
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<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, 25/6/2020 16:17<br>
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<p>Due to availability of personnel and other issues, we
won't be releasing 78.0 on June 30. I anticipate
releasing during the week of July 6. This also gives
another week for tweaks and fixes that are still coming in
from new patches. <br>
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<p>We plan to do one more 78 beta, 78.0b4, in the next few
days. And 79 beta will be done next week.</p>
<p>Feel free to ask any questions or provide feedback.</p>
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