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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-05-10 3:43 a.m., Ben Bucksch
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:1394fa66-d66b-6687-a8f9-550fb327159b@beonex.com">I think
the "Advanced config" should really be a button... And, please,
completely out of the user focus. We don't want to encourage
curious clicks. Nor people feeling "mighty", "I can do this, I'm a
big boy".
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<p>The more we try to put this into the account setup wizard, the
more I think it shouldn't be there.</p>
<p>You said it yourself, it's an edge case not for regular users but
for experts who know what they're doing. That's not the objective
and purpose of this popup, and trying to cramp this funnel into it
can cause confusions for regular/non-techy users, potentially
getting mismatched with the "Configure manually", and lead to
unwanted consequences.<br>
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cite="mid:1394fa66-d66b-6687-a8f9-550fb327159b@beonex.com">
This is really just for admins.
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For this very reason it shouldn't be in the account setup wizard.<br>
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cite="mid:1394fa66-d66b-6687-a8f9-550fb327159b@beonex.com">
The Advanced Config button could actually be on the first screen,
where you say "Get new email address". You'd still need to enter
protocol, server hostname and username before we open the advanced
dialog, because we need that info to create the account, so it's a
little more work. But I think it makes sense, because people who
use the advanced config don't want all the smarts of the account
creation dialog at all. And this way, we get it out of sight of
the normal user flow, and avoid curious clicks.
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<p>This is what bothers me regarding this addition, there are too
many "if" and "but". If we add that button, then we need to create
another prompt, and we need to account for an extra step, and so
on.</p>
<p>That button also doesn't simply opens the settings, but closes
the dialog and saves the current state. Those are implied actions
that are not clear at first.<br>
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<p>It seems to me that the reason we want the Advanced Config button
is to offer an easy access to the server settings for admins and
experts, but what it will mainly do is adding confusion to regular
users, and forcing us to come up with extra steps to account for
it.<br>
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<p>If you're an admin that doesn't need to follow the setup wizard,
closing the modal and opening the settings make sense. Those are 2
clicks. Offering a button to quickly go there saves 1 click but it
adds so much complexity for us I don't think it's really worth it.</p>
<p>I'll leave it out for now and revisit this once the new account
wizard UI landed.<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
<span style="color:#666;font-family:mono; font-size:small"><b>Alessandro
Castellani</b><br>
Lead UX Architect<br>
Thunderbird</span></div>
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