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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks, Alex. This is better.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A few small comments:</div>
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<li>Please do not hide the username fields. This very option is
one of the main things to adapt, because we cannot guess that.
This very often needs to be adapted. This needs to be in the
focus of the user, he really needs to double-check that in
manual config.<br>
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<li>See my response to Tanstaafl regarding checkbox hiding.<br>
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<li>There is no need to separate the password entry fields. The
password is almost always identical, even in cases where the
username is different. Nobody in his right mind asks users to
remember different passwords for IMAP and SMTP. If that indeed
happens, that is so so rare, the user can later enter a new
SMTP password manually. We should not encumber the dialog with
0.001% cases. That's what the Advanced Config dialog is for.
*1<br>
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<li>Again, we need the "Advanced config" button, to avoid
cluttering the normal stream for various edge cases. I had
explained that at length in one of the replies.<br>
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<li>Labels: "Incoming" and "Outgoing" should be normal spelling.
All uppercase looks ugly and like shouting. You can remove
"Hostname", just "Server" is sufficient. That saves you width.<br>
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<p>I would please again urge you <b>not</b> to change the input
fields, i.e. add or remove stuff. A lot of experience and
knowledge about actual use cases came in there - I personally
collected most of the major ISP settings for the whole world,
and I've read years of user complaints -, and all this knowledge
about real world situation influenced the design.</p>
<p>I like your designs, the new dialog is a lot more beautiful and
nicer. I also like the new vertical layout of the manual config
section. Just please keep the existing input fields.</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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<p>*1 It might be a good idea to add the password entry to the
Account settings dialog in Thunderbird. It would change the
corresponding entry in the password database, instead of the
user having to fish the right entry manually out of the password
database dialog, or waiting for password failure and password
re-try prompt.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">alex wrote on 09.05.19 06:38:<br>
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<p>Hello wonderful people,</p>
<p>Another week, another round of mock-ups</p>
<p>In this new iteration you will find some updated strings based
on your suggestions and a rethought approach to the manual
configuration step.</p>
<p><b>Manual Configuration</b><br>
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<p>The Incoming and Outgoing columns will help us to organize all
those settings into a nice and compact grid.</p>
<p>It might be necessary to increase the width of the modal just a
bit in order to account for other languages with longer text. In
case the modal grows for whatever reason, the form fields should
expand to fill up the area in order to avoid leaving empty
spaces.</p>
<p><b>Use same credentials option</b></p>
<p>TB will use the same credentials for receiving and sending
emails, but the user will have the option to opt-out once in the
manual config phase. If the user unchecks that option, 2
dedicated username and password fields will be revealed.</p>
<p>In case the password changes after the setup as been completed,
I made a note to myself to create a bug in order to show this
checkbox in the password dialog prompted by TB.</p>
<p>In its tallest state, the modal reaches 643px of height. Still
manageable inside the 768px height of a small laptop, but also
allowing the manual config section to be scrollable will take
care of edge cases.</p>
<p><b>Buttons</b></p>
<p>A "re-test" button will allow the user to test as many times as
he wants until a successful connection gets established. The
"Done" button will save the account as it is allowing the user
to come back to this section at a later time.</p>
<p>Once a connection has been successfully established, a "Set Up
another account" button will appear to offer a shortcut to jump
back to the beginning of the modal.</p>
<p><b>Final Screen</b><br>
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<p>If the user clicks "Done" and the connection was successful, a
new screen with some common "next steps" might be used to offer
easy shortcuts and guide a first time user. We could use
something like that to prevent a potential overwhelming feeling.<br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://presentator.ura.design/en/XP9IsbuQ?v=0&s=1&m=preview"
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<p>As usual, let me know what you think, meanwhile I'll create
some mock-ups for the other 2 operating systems.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
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