<div>> Also I don't fully understand your concerns here, what is the
problem to inform the vistor of the page to get some hints about
Lightning? Leave the section.<br><br>Just want to clarify that I think it's good to have Lightning featured here, but would agree that we should not highlight it for downloading rather than a feature of Thunderbird.<br><br>I might miss important context or history on this though.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>-- <br></div><div>Elio Qoshi<br></div><div>Founder & Design Lead<br></div><div>Ura Design<br></div><div>https://ura.design<br></div><div>PGP Key Fingerprint: 5FFA D567 E102 6ECA BD30 073F AA03 F088 198F 6749<br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 12:39 PM, neandr <neandr@gmx.de> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><p>Some comments about Matt's notes ... see inline .. <br></p><p>Günter<br></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 19.03.19 um 11:54 schrieb Matt
Harris:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><...> <br> <br> I would still like to see add-ons removed from the top menu and
replaced with a general info block pointing the use to the
add-on manager, which I am seeing as another page link lower in
the wire frame.<br> <br> Can we also get away from the grey on grey and black on grey
which are so difficult to read. They look pretty, but unless
your monitor and graphic is really u to snuff they are not a
good choice to actually read.<br> </span></blockquote><div><span style="font-family:Calibri">Addons are an essential part of the TB offering
and the user should have a short path to get to. So the [Add-Ons]
button at the first line is OK. </span><br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family:Calibri">We need to finally remove the lightning download
from the web site. Some Linux maintainers do not bundle it,
but that is not our problem. WE do bundle it for all operating
systems. For Linux users that have issues with their
distributions copies should be addressing their issues to the
maintainers, not having Thunderbird take the retrograde step to
go back in time to when their maintainers are living. Sorry
Linux folks, but that is one of the reasons Linux is still
niche. Maintainers and other individuals is positions of power
make appalling decisions and everyone just works around them.
The download link needs to be removed and we should be
encouraging folk to click yes on the first run install. Instead
of catering to a small group of loud minority product users by
offering a totally useless download link that will start an
install process in the hardest possible way that is to install a
product that more than 90% of users get with their install.
Many users just have that install pane on the bottom of the
windows basically for ever, they often appear in screen shots
in support topics. They really have no idea what it is and
ignore it as it does not prevent mail activities.<br> <br> Given the explosion of support request for folk already on the
beta channel about their "functions" that have been removed by
uncaring developers, I think it is probably going to be a long
haul until the add-on environment supports the top 20 or 30% of
add-ons. WE need to warn folk that those cuttong edges do in
fact have blood on them and it is not always plain sailing. If
it was it would be a release version.</span></blockquote><p>Also I don't fully understand your concerns here, what is the
problem to inform the vistor of the page to get some hints about
Lightning?<br></p><p>Leave the section.<br></p><p><br></p><blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-family:Calibri"><br>I also think that if we have a prominent option for a page
Language that will actually change the locale, then the other
discussion about systems and languages becomes moot. Change the
display language to Macedonian and you get a Macedonian download
offered. From my scrolling up and down and left and right, it
look to be currently way to the bottom and out of view on page
load. It needs to be up the top where it can be found as soon
as the page loads in the wrong language. A good place might be
the space left by the add-ons link in the menu.<br> <br> This is as I understand is something of an issue for a lot of
British expats in Spain. They want British English Thunderbird
but get Spanish, so there are multiple use cases where another
language might be required.</span></blockquote><p>A real good point.<br></p><p>Selection for the page and for the download should separated.
That is choosing the page language (manually or because of the OS
or so) should not hard set the downloaded language version.<br></p><p><br></p></blockquote><div><br></div>