<div dir="auto">I like these suggestions.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Another thing to consider for the default case: if we show the same appeal to donation on the landing page it will soon not be perceived anymore. So if it could change once in a while by having different layout / wording / picture (?) - think of SEO principles of content fresh - it will make a bigger impact.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Think of it as a squeeze page without stopping the user from doing their work.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Axel</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 Mar 2018 00:25, "harry" <<a href="mailto:harry_cube@muenchen-mail.de">harry_cube@muenchen-mail.de</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_1678105962579638029moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.02.2018 um 17:40 schrieb Eyal
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* The vast majority of Thunderbird users don't even know that
their contribution is desirable, let alone significant. <br>
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I have already mentioned this here before:<br>
if Thunderbird wants to secure that donations keep coming in, there
should definitely be taken a little effort to advertise that TB
needs those donations.<br>
As of now, <b>you can use TB for years and years, and still not
know that a donation would be appreciated.</b><br>
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I, for instance, have more often made donations to the "Document
foundation" (LibreOffice) than I did to Thunderbird because they
ask for donations after each update. It is easier for them, though,
because the update can' t be done as background process, but the
download has to be done manually, so it is easy to show the donation
page to the user.<br>
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I have just checked, and found something that was new to me:
actually, the donation page /start page<br>
<a class="m_1678105962579638029moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://live.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/start?locale=de&version=52.6.0&os=WINNT&buildid=20180123185941" target="_blank">https://live.mozillamessaging.<wbr>com/thunderbird/start?locale=<wbr>de&version=52.6.0&os=WINNT&<wbr>buildid=20180123185941</a><br>
*is* being displayed at each start of TB (if not unchecked in the
settings) - but only if one uses the messagepane of TB. I Actually,
I use only 2 panes (with the messagepane being "pushed down"and the
content of a message not visible until opened - and I have always
used it this way).<br>
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So, considering quite some others may use TB in the same way, it
could be a good idea to display the donation page<b> *after each
update process of TB*- </b> in the same way as the "new version
fixes" are being displayed as of now. That is, in a separate tab or
a separate window. Also, this page
"<a href="http://live.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/start" target="_blank">live.mozillamessaging.com/<wbr>thunderbird/start</a>" could need a little
overhaul - I can only speak for the German Version of this web
page. While the page isn't really badly written, it seems to be a
translation from the English page and doesn't really sound inspiring
to me. <br>
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I wouldn't consider this is to be too intrusive, nor think that it
would be not well received by a significant number of users. It
should be made very clear, though, that one won't loose any
functionality if he doesn't donate - in order to not annoy users.<br>
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I would rather consider it a wasted chance for the future of TB if
the donation issue wasn't given more attention.<br>
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Harry<br>
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