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<p>[Resent, as apparently replying from gmail on my Samsung Galaxy
caused a bounce]<br>
<blockquote type="cite">So, considering quite some others may
use TB in the same way, it could be a good idea to display the
donation page<b> *after each update process of TB*- </b> in
the same way as the "new version fixes" are being displayed as
of now. <br>
..<br>
That is, in a separate tab or a separate window.</blockquote>
I like these suggestions. I am successfully using content tabs
like this with my Add-ons.<br>
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<p>Another thing to consider for the default case (landing
page): if we always show the same appeal to donation on the
landing page it will soon not be actively perceived anymore.
So if it could change once in a while by having different
layout / wording / picture (?) - think of SEO principles of
content fresh - it will make a bigger impact. The landing
page is literally like a free mailing list, but without the
Spam, and no need for advertising anything else as the
product we know our users already are using. This is an
enormous difference to any other type of marketing as you
do not have to deliver / install / convincing of the product
anymore, all the hard work is done. </p>
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<p>Think of it as a squeeze page but without stopping the
user from doing their work. <br>
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<p>Another good thing would be if we could have an optional
sign on for regular
" Thunderbird Patrons" who could choose to see something
alternative on their landing page (e.g. their company
logo). I am giving 5 Euro / month to Thunderbird and don't
really get anything back other than paypal receipts. How
about a monthly newsletter?</p>
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<p>Maybe the last one is just an ideas for the community
manager, if you need someone for marketing I can come up
with more ideas - we are trying to do this with a new
online shop (eleectronic gadgets) at the moment but
getting customers in the door is incredibly hard. Seeing
that the Thunderbird user base is growing steadily without
much marketing is also an encouraging sign - I say
monetize, improve and then grow in that order.<br>
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Axel</div>
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background-color:rgba(220,220,240,0.4); border-radius:3px;"> <b>Subject:</b>Re:
Vision for Thunderbird<br>
<b>From:</b>Harry <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:harry_cube@muenchen-mail.de"><harry_cube@muenchen-mail.de></a><br>
<b>To:</b>Tb-planning <br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, 01/03/2018 00:21:51 00:21 GMT ST +0000
[Week 9]<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.02.2018 um 17:40 schrieb Eyal
Rozenberg:<br>
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* The vast majority of Thunderbird users don't even know that
their contribution is desirable, let alone significant. <br>
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I have already mentioned this here before:<br>
if Thunderbird wants to secure that donations keep coming in,
there should definitely be taken a little effort to advertise
that TB needs those donations.<br>
As of now, <b>you can use TB for years and years, and still not
know that a donation would be appreciated.</b><br>
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I, for instance, have more often made donations to the "Document
foundation" (LibreOffice) than I did to Thunderbird because they
ask for donations after each update. It is easier for them,
though, because the update can' t be done as background process,
but the download has to be done manually, so it is easy to show
the donation page to the user.<br>
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I have just checked, and found something that was new to me:
actually, the donation page /start page<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://live.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/start?locale=de&version=52.6.0&os=WINNT&buildid=20180123185941"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://live.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/start?locale=de&version=52.6.0&os=WINNT&buildid=20180123185941</a><br>
*is* being displayed at each start of TB (if not unchecked in the
settings) - but only if one uses the messagepane of TB. I
Actually, I use only 2 panes (with the messagepane being "pushed
down"and the content of a message not visible until opened - and
I have always used it this way).<br>
<br>
So, considering quite some others may use TB in the same way, it
could be a good idea to display the donation page<b> *after each
update process of TB*- </b> in the same way as the "new version
fixes" are being displayed as of now. That is, in a separate tab
or a separate window. Also, this page
"live.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/start" could need a little
overhaul - I can only speak for the German Version of this web
page. While the page isn't really badly written, it seems to be a
translation from the English page and doesn't really sound
inspiring to me. <br>
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I wouldn't consider this is to be too intrusive, nor think that it
would be not well received by a significant number of users. It
should be made very clear, though, that one won't loose any
functionality if he doesn't donate - in order to not annoy users.<br>
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I would rather consider it a wasted chance for the future of TB
if the donation issue wasn't given more attention.<br>
<br>
Harry<br>
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