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<p>FMPOV the 2017 process was handle very professional -- thanks to
Gerv and Ben (and others I missed to mention here) -- so there
should be no concern to repeat the same process with the next
elections. <br>
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Not sure what the next steps for the TB Council 2018 elections are.
<br>
Today Mozilla dropped a Discource message \1\ which could lead to a
little changed process.<br>
As they did, also TB Council candidates should be asked to not only
introduce them self, but give answers to some of the burning
questions Thunderbird is faced with. Like as a product / a open
source project, it's future and how he/she see the "home" of TB. For
sure not a complete list, but all candidates should answer to the
same questions. This would expand the Thunderbird Council Elections
2017 List \2\ with point 3.<br>
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Gerv just posted .. <br>
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<pre wrap="">My proposal would be to make sure, in good time, we have a
wider discussion about where to find contributors and how to evaluate
their contributions, so we can have a better go at defining an
appropriately-broad electorate.</pre>
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.. that's a big +1 with me.<br>
<br>
I felt with the 2016 election process there have been some
"external" people applying for the council, but the community --
afair -- decided against those candidates. Wouldn't it be great to
add a broader view to the Council? I hope for that!<br>
<br>
Günter<br>
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1\
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/important-council-elections-november-2017-nominee-q-a/21201">https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/important-council-elections-november-2017-nominee-q-a/21201</a><br>
2\ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tb-planning/Fq6qggT6IMo">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tb-planning/Fq6qggT6IMo</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09.11.2017 22:01, Goverenance TB
wrote:<br>
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Thunderbird governance, which will be considered in designing
the future of the council. We encourage you to help publicize
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are splitting our requests for feedback into manageable
pieces, each of which will cover different aspects of
governance. This is the first message of a short series over
the coming weeks. This first request is for feedback
specifically on the <b>method of conducting elections</b>.
Future messages will cover other topics, for example
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- Past Elections</span><span
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</span><span
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following is a summary of past elections. To date three
councils have been elected, each using a different process.
In 2014 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2014/11/thunderbird-reorganizes-at-2014-toronto-summit/">the
first Thunderbird Council of seven was elected</a> by a
typical nomination process of those present and simple
majority vote at a fall summit meeting of 22 very active
Thunderbird contributors. </span><span
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</span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">In
fall 2015 discussion began in tb-planning for the second
council, in such subjects as "Council Elections" and
"Reorganizing the Council", with a goal of having the
community elect the council. Voting in February 2016 used <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tb-planning/7RdupcgF-8w/lV88TzYbFQAJ">the
following process</a>, "The existing Council will serve as a
nominating committee, and recruit candidates who agree to
serve on a renewed Council. (This could be existing Council
members or new people.) This slate of candidates would then be
presented to tb-planning for a single vote [by anyone active
on tb-planning], much like the one a year ago, to see if there
is consensus.". The <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tb-planning/qe9nSci89rY/Tlit7oZXFgAJ">slate
and voting process was announced</a>, and the <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/tb-planning/FMBkc7wYmDQ">results
also posted on tb-planning</a>.</span><span
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</span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">In
2017 the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#%21topic/tb-planning/Fq6qggT6IMo">third
council election process</a> established a public list of
electors, who are active project contributors per criteria
defined by the Council. Electors discussed on the tb-election
mailing list, and then nominated and voted to seat seven
council members using “ranked choice” with the STV method. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/tb-planning/5QNL06qVY4g">Results
were announced on tb-planning</a>. The election was run by
volunteers who were not members of the council. The council
was pleased with the results, and there were no major
complaints from the community.</span></p>
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</span><span
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Elections</span><span
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this message we are looking for your feedback on the 2018
election process, namely nominating and voting for council
members. Feedback will be reviewed by the council, the
results summarized back to the community and used by the
Thunderbird Council to inform the process to be used in the
2018 election.</span><span
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Please send feedback (idea or concern) with subject
"Thunderbird Governance 2018 - Council Elections" (the subject
of this email) to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance@thunderbird.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">governance@thunderbird.net</a>, <b>NOT
tb-planning</b>. Please formulate your feedback as a <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.aleanjourney.com/2009/11/defining-problem-statement.html">problem
statement</a>, with or without a potential solution. </span></p>
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example, you might offer feedback on defining the electorate,
as in the past this has been a challenging aspect of the
process.</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:
36pt;"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">"The
electorate of 2017, while being inclusive, did not include
population X, and they should be included because of reason Y.
And here is how you might identify or define this
population...”</span></p>
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we encourage you to respond if you think the previous
procedure used was adequate, so we can properly gauge the
opinion of the community for electing the Council.</span></p>
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send your response by Monday November 20. Please post this
message in its entirety in other venues frequented by
Thunderbird users.</span></p>
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you for your interest in Thunderbird.</span></p>
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Thunderbird Council</span><span
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