<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi<span name="Philipp Kewisch" class="gmail-gD"> Philipp.<br><br></span></div><span name="Philipp Kewisch" class="gmail-gD">I get your points and it is good that project does not maintain a close mind about other long term goals. <br><br></span></div><span name="Philipp Kewisch" class="gmail-gD">Even if including Riot on Thunderbird may be not possible (technical, license, or any kind of issue), I still think that the idea is good. Not specifically Riot, but how Matrix/Riot, Slack or Discord are working on these days focusing on being a "collaboration tool" and not just a chat. If there are people that haven't use it or just don't want to see those tools without even evaluating it, they are just missing an idea on how to improve communications. <br><br></span></div><span name="Philipp Kewisch" class="gmail-gD">Currently Thunderbird has a very limited chat functionality. For example I'm really trying to use it for twitter (with three twitter accounts) but it is so limited and slow that just locks the rest of the Thunderbird application. <br><br></span></div><div><span name="Philipp Kewisch" class="gmail-gD">I know that today's priority is e-mail and to release a new Thunderbird, but don't dismiss other ideas for the future yet.<br><br></span></div><span name="Philipp Kewisch" class="gmail-gD">Regards<br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Patrick Cloke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrick@cloke.us" target="_blank">patrick@cloke.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>On 5/5/17 10:34 PM, Qwerty Chouskie wrote:<br>
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Is there any chance of Thunderbird.next/TB:NG/<wbr>whateveritscalled
having <a href="https://riot.im/" target="_blank">
riot.im</a> integration?<br>
</blockquote></span>
Current Thunderbird nightlies (and the upcoming beta of Thunderbird
54) [0] actually have support for the Matrix protocol (<a href="http://riot.im" target="_blank">riot.im</a> is
just a web interface for that protocol) [1]. It's current preffed
off [2] because the integration isn't complete [3], but there will
be a Google Summer of Code student working on finishing it up this
summer [4]. Hopefully it will be turned on for the next ESR!<span class=""><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<ul>
<li>It's open, privacy-friendly, etc. </li>
<li>It's well made </li>
<li>It's written using Web technologies (Javascript, etc), and
runs in the browser
</li>
<li>It could ease the implementation of the chat component by
providing a solid base, thus only needing to implement other
protocols (IRC, XMPP, twitter, etc) on top of it
</li>
</ul>
</blockquote></span>
I don't think this would help, I doubt the the <a href="http://riot.im" target="_blank">riot.im</a> codebase
would give us any sort of foundation to write additional protocols
on top of. We already have JavaScript implementations of IRC, XMPP
and Twitter.<span class=""><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<ul>
<li>It would make TB:NG <i>more than just another email
client. It would be an email client+"Slack"+"Google
Hangouts" all on one free, privacy-friendly, easy-to-use
program.<br>
</i></li>
</ul>
I think <a href="http://riot.im" target="_blank">riot.im</a> integration could bring a lot to the table for
both Thunderbird and <a href="http://roit.im" target="_blank">roit.im</a>. Thunderbird already sees a lot of
corporate use, think of how much more it could see if it served
the role of a email program
<i>and</i> a messaging program (Slack) <i>and</i> a voice/video
communications program (Google Hangouts, Skype, etc). Less
programs to keep up-to-date, less accounts to deal with, no messy
EULAs to deal with, easier for everyone in the end.<br>
</blockquote></span>
I wholeheartedly agree with the idea of using distributed
communication! No major silos to buy into, but I don't know if this
would cause corporations to adopt Thunderbird more readily.<br>
<br>
--Patrick<br>
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[0] See <a class="m_-4780525907848924657moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199855" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/<wbr>show_bug.cgi?id=1199855</a><br>
[1] <a class="m_-4780525907848924657moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://matrix.org/" target="_blank">https://matrix.org/</a><br>
[2] You can set "<code id="m_-4780525907848924657line-90"><span class="m_-4780525907848924657str">chat.prpls.prpl-matrix.<wbr>disable</span></code>"
to "false" to enable it.<br>
[3]
<a class="m_-4780525907848924657moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?component=Matrix&product=Chat%20Core&bug_status=__open__&list_id=13573298" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/<wbr>buglist.cgi?component=Matrix&<wbr>product=Chat%20Core&bug_<wbr>status=__open__&list_id=<wbr>13573298</a><br>
[4]
<a class="m_-4780525907848924657moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://patrick.cloke.us/posts/2017/05/05/google-summer-of-code-2017-matrix-protocol/" target="_blank">http://patrick.cloke.us/posts/<wbr>2017/05/05/google-summer-of-<wbr>code-2017-matrix-protocol/</a><br>
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