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Matt Harris wrote (below):<br>
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Bring the decision about Thunderbird's financial and spiritual
home to a conclusion. Nothing says we are going no where like
that undecided after years. That has to be an absolute priority!
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I would like to see us reaching out to our users with a path
forward, ...<br>
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'Reaching out to media' is not a substitute for a <u>shared </u><u>vision</u>,
<u>plan</u>, <u>action</u>, and <u>progress</u>.<br>
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-Mike Ramey<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-22 03:48, Matt Harris wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/17 11:15 AM, Ben Bucksch
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Do you have some suggestions, other than a new website? <br>
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On 2017-03-22 03:48, Matt Harris wrote:<br>
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Bring the decision about Thunderbird's financial and spiritual
home to a conclusion. Nothing says we are going no where like
that undecided after years. That has to be an absolute priority!
Our ability to run a server farm, a forked version of AMO and to
build Thunderbird on the Mozilla platform not withstanding.
Regardless of our future home all those things will have to be
addressed. No one is going to be doing it for us.<br>
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I would like to see us reaching out to our users with a path
forward, what is our plan over the next 2 years? Well it all
hinges on what our home is does it not. <br>
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But here are some of the oft requested features our users appear
to expect and we do not deliver;<br>
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<li>A multi line mail list. Something like postbox, Outlook and
Mac Mail have had for a long time. </li>
<li>Import and export of the Thunderbird profile natively. (how
1985 is manual copying of files and folders to a usb drive.
These are people that compute with their fingers, and expect
wizards to hold their hands)<br>
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<li>Backup/Restore of mail</li>
<li>Backup/Restore of address books</li>
<li>Native support for card dav</li>
<li>MailDir (it is almost complete but has gone no where in
years really)</li>
<li>Folder ordering (including a work / Personal delineation
that extends to the address book so auto fill only looks for
work addresses in work accounts.)<br>
</li>
</ul>
When I first lobbed into a Thunderbird support site users were
requesting all of those features. We delivered chat.<br>
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Then I think we need to discuss the user interface option of no
menu. This applies to Windows only. Some say it is best to
follow what Microsoft wants. I say we should be offering our
users the choice as part of the installer. We have dumbed the
process down so far that unless you know there are menus, they
can not find them.<br>
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Firefox went with the three line hamburger menu on the toolbar, we
did the same. But in all seriousness, this menu is simply
confusing even to me. To take this recent discussion on user
interface further. A regular request in support is how to add
another account to Thunderbird.<br>
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So then we have to start explaining to the user to click on the
hamburger menu, then click on the > beside the words "new
message". If you click the > you get an even more confusingly
labeled menu for "existing mail account". Click that and it will
display a wizard to allow you to add your extra account. <br>
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What can we do? I do not think I am alone in thinking we simply
go back to displaying the menu bar.<br>
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Matt<br>
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