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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/01/2016 07:18 PM, Chris Ilias
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:430d95c3-d0b5-b093-e676-00656ca010f3@ilias.ca">On
2016-11-17 3:12 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Interesting post: <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://monterail.com/blog/2016/the-power-of-email-clients-why-did-we-redesign-thunderbird/">http://monterail.com/blog/2016/the-power-of-email-clients-why-did-we-redesign-thunderbird/</a>
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Has the discussion died down? Now all of you are going to hate me
for continuing it. :) <br>
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First, I think it's great that people are thinking about
Thunderbird UX, even if it's just aesthetic. <br>
Even if many of us have no issues with the design, I'd be
interested to know which version of TB each of you started on.
There have been significant changes, and many of us have just
gotten used to things that may not be as intuitive in later
versions. For instance: <br>
Here's a screenshot of TB1.5: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ilias.ca/screenshots/tb15-theme.png">http://ilias.ca/screenshots/tb15-theme.png</a>
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Here's a screenshot of TB45: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ilias.ca/screenshots/tb45.png">http://ilias.ca/screenshots/tb45.png</a>
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When I started using TB, it had a menu bar by default. The menu
bar was replaced with a menu button. I suppose I would have
assumed the button at the end of the toolbar was the path to all
those commands. The addition of a calendar pushed the menu button
away from the edge of the window, and I don't think I would
interpret it as a menu button anymore. It's in the middle of
nowhere and looks like a big grippy. <br>
Maybe extend the toolbar across the window? <br>
Change the icon to something like a gear? <br>
Move the menu button up in the tab bar? I don’t know about anyone
else, but I rarely have more than one TB tab open anyway. <br>
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Did you know you can use Customize to move the menu button up into
the tab bar, menu bar or all the way down to the other end of the
mail toolbar?<br>
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I have Mail and Calendar tabs always open, Chat and read some
messages in tabs other times. <br>
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cite="mid:430d95c3-d0b5-b093-e676-00656ca010f3@ilias.ca"> <br>
If I'm a new user, and I've just set up an account using the
wizard that pops up on first install, what are the next actions? <br>
get new messages <br>
* view message list <br>
* view message content <br>
* view other folders <br>
* reply to a message <br>
* write a new message <br>
* add a signature <br>
* create additional account? <br>
* set up filters <br>
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Looking at the TB45 screenshot, how intuitive are each of those
tasks? Would you know where to go to set up a signature, set up
filters, or create an additional account? <br>
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By discussing the logic of the layout and common use-cases, I
think we can come across some low hanging fruit, and get more
people interested in contributing to TB. <br>
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I'm also kinda lost regarding who Thunderbird is for. It does
email, newsgroups, RSS feeds, address book, Calendar, to-do list,
IRC, Jabber, and other messaging, but no central place to launch
those components, like in SeaMonkey. <br>
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Here's another one: Why do we have a menu item to create "Other
accounts", when it only offers one account type? <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ilias.ca/screenshots/tb45-otheraccount.png">http://ilias.ca/screenshots/tb45-otheraccount.png</a></blockquote>
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Well, all the other accounts have their own menu items. The "Other
accounts" menu item offers Movemail and Newsgroups on Linux, only
Newsgroups on Windows.<br>
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cite="mid:430d95c3-d0b5-b093-e676-00656ca010f3@ilias.ca"> <br>
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Interestingly, that TB1.5 screenshot was from a blog post I did
about not liking the TB2 theme. :) <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/11/i-dont-like-the-new-thunderbird-theme/">http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/11/i-dont-like-the-new-thunderbird-theme/</a>
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I liked the Folder pane background in the UI redesign, but it was
only for Windows. How would it look on Linux and Mac? <br>
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