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<p>I tried this with Paypal, and I got the message:</p>
<p>"De la part de l’équipe Thunderbird Merci"</p>
<p>which indicates this was a Thunderbird donation. But no Mailchimp
link. Not sure why - maybe the Paypal path does not support the
Mailchimp pathway?</p>
<p>:rkent<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/19/2016 1:28 PM, Vincent wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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I just give 10€ from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://donate.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird">https://donate.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird</a>
and I got a confirmation message which seems to indicated I
have donated to Mozilla Firefox, not Thunderbird:<br>
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solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<p style="margin-left:40px"><i>Merci énormément pour votre
don à Mozilla. Grâce à cette contribution financière,
nous poursuivrons notre mission visant à créer et
protéger un Web ouvert.</i></p>
<div style="margin-left:40px"> </div>
<p style="margin-left:40px"><i>Nous pensons qu'Internet est
bien plus qu'une technologie ; il s'agit d'une ressource
publique.</i></p>
<div style="margin-left:40px"> </div>
<p style="margin-left:40px"><i>Merci encore pour tout ce que
vous faites pour Mozilla. Ensemble, nous ferons en sorte
que le Web reste ouvert, accessible, transparent et sûr.</i></p>
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<p style="margin-left:40px"><i>Mark Surman<br>
Directeur exécutif<br>
Mozilla Foundation</i></p>
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Also, I do not see any mailchimp suscribe form at the end of
the process.<br>
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Maybe this is because I use a french link instead of the en-us
link?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-17 0:00 GMT+02:00 R Kent James
<span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kent@caspia.com" target="_blank">kent@caspia.com</a>></span>:<br>
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class="">On 5/16/2016 1:10 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:<br>
> First, I think it is great that this is happening,
and while I<br>
> understand that what I'm about to say it much easier
said than done...<br>
><br>
> If users actually had positive feedback that their
donations were<br>
> actually being used to make Thunderbird better, I
think that donations<br>
> would grow consistently over time, first through
repeat donations, but<br>
> also from others who maybe took a wait and see
attitude.<br>
><br>
> Transparency in the accounting process will
accomplish this to a great<br>
> degree, but another way that is maybe even more a
'feel good' way, would<br>
> be if a way were provided to allow for 'directed
donations' - meaning,<br>
> donations, but that were directed to be used to
implement a certain<br>
> bug/feature. These could be incorporated in the Bug
Tracker, allowing<br>
> people to donate directly from there.<br>
><br>
> Of course, for these, it would have to be understood
that your money<br>
> goes into a special account, and if the linked
bug/feature is still open<br>
> after a given amount of time (say, a year), then your
money goes into<br>
> the general fund - otherwise, it counts against the
bug/feature.<br>
><br>
> So, these donations are made knowing that they might
not go toward the<br>
> purpose you wanted, but at least you could try.<br>
><br>
> It would be a much more meaningful way to 'vote' too,
and this way<br>
> people could actually brag about having helped pay to
implement feature<br>
> X or fix bug Y...<br>
<br>
</span>There has been a lot of discussion in the past about
this. The issue<br>
generally is that typically money is needed mostly for
overhead<br>
activities such as build engineering, QA, hosting costs,
etc, that users<br>
do not fully appreciate. The challenge is to present the
opportunity to<br>
give in a way that motivates users, without creating the
impression that<br>
their money is actually going to be given toward something
specific that<br>
they can know and understand.<br>
<br>
Part of my answer to the issue that you have raised though
is to create<br>
a mailing list that we will use to collect feedback from
donors.<br>
Subscribing to this mailing list is offered at the end of
the donation<br>
process. Long-term my hope is that we can engage with donors
there, and<br>
give them the chance to provide feedback, and seriously
listen to that<br>
feedback. I still have dreams of having a strong Thunderbird
users group<br>
(Thundernest) that would have a major role in determining
the future of<br>
Thunderbird, and funding it.<br>
<br>
At this point in time though, I am much more interested in
concrete<br>
offers to help with specific aspects of the donation process
than I am<br>
suggestions on how to proceed. The specifics of what we do
are not<br>
nearly as important as actually doing something. Thanks
Magnus and Jorg<br>
for working on the donation link issues in Thunderbird
directly, now we<br>
really need help with the start page redesign in Django on
Bedrock.<br>
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:rkent<br>
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