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          background-color:rgba(220,220,240,0.4); border-radius:3px;"> <b>Subject:</b>Re:
          Thunderbird version 45.1.0 available<br>
          <b>From:</b>Onno Ekker<br>
          <b>To:</b>Tb-planning <br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Saturday, 14/05/2016 12:04:58 12:04 GMT ST +0100
          [Week 19]<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Axel
          Grude <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        class=""> <b>Subject:</b>Re: Thunderbird
                        version 45.1.0 available<br>
                      </span><b>From:</b>Michael Meeks<br>
                      <b>To:</b>Jörg Knobloch <br>
                      <b>CC: </b>Tb-planning <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      <b>Sent: </b>Thursday, 12/05/2016 18:02:49 18:02
                      GMT ST +0100 [Week 19]<br>
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                    <pre>Hi there,

        I guess I'm Michael Meeks - I should have introduced myself without
just lurking, but I'm rooting for Thunderbird quietly and have quite
spent some time working on LibreOffice with TDF; but enough of me:

On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 17:29 +0200, Jörg Knobloch wrote:
>> Wait, this will be 100% Thunderbird funds?
> >  Can you add big/visible donate link/button to   
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.mozilla.org/hr/thunderbird/" target="_blank">https://www.mozilla.org/hr/thunderbird/</a> ?
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> More links are coming. We're planning one on the download page as
> well.

        From TDF's experience (in turn based on VLC's) - a rather useful time
to encourage people to donate is during the download. </pre>
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                </span> does this include the download of an update? :-)<br>
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            <div>For a while my Thunderbird add-on would open a Firefox
              tab on upgrade, showing the release notes with a donation
              button on the bottom and it helped getting money, but
              people were also complaining about it. Instead of changing
              it to open a Thunderbird tab, which would be less
              intrusive, I decided to remove that part of the code
              altogether, which caused donations to drop to nearly zero.<br>
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            <div>I think that if people had to go to a website to
              install updates, it would be easier to get donations, but
              the way installation of updates of Thunderbird itself and
              updates of Thunderbird and it's add-ons are done, it is
              hard to make people aware they can donate…<br>
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            <div>Onno<br>
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    <p>from my own experience I always add "Donation" tabs (in
      Thunderbird) when my Addons update with significant changes (not
      on maintenance releases); I also add instructions on how to remove
      the tab (usually by right-clicking the Donate button in my Addon's
      options dialogs) for those annoyed by it. When people click the
      "donate" link on the tab, it opens in a browser  - because people
      usually have their passwords stored there. I also usually add a
      tab for version history.<br>
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    <p>cheers</p>
    <p>Axel</p>
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