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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/02/2016 12:15 PM, Ben Bucksch
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="mid_56CA6825_2090609_beonex_com"
cite="mid:56CA6825.2090609@beonex.com" type="cite">Matt Harris
wrote on 20.02.2016 15:47:
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="Cite_3575592" type="cite">coloured
quote levels, I like them, almost as much as I like
Thunderbird's block quoting with lines. But we offer no
customization at all, after all it is up to the user if they
want to do something stupid with the customization like white
text on a white background, or try and retrieve mail very
minute.
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I think we'd make a lot of users happy, if we optionally allowed
all quotes to appear in colors - in the reader, not the composer.
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In preferences, or even directly in the reader somewhere ("direct
manipulation" mantra of UI), show quotes in colors. Different
color for a different level.
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Advantage: All messages would appear like this for that end user.
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This would be a really nice feature. And it would be trivial to
implement - it's merely a CSS stylesheet. We wanted to add this 15
years ago, but just never got around to it. There must be a
bugzilla feature bug about it somewhere, too.
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Relevant extensions:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/quote-colors/">https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/quote-colors/</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/smarttemplate4/">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/smarttemplate4/</a>
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It can't be the default, because some people have difficulty
reading text in certain colors. For the same reason, senders
should not set that.
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This is more an accessibility option.. We should be offering to
convert color that fall within certain ranges to others. in
Particular Red /Green (some simply do not see it at all). But again
make is part of the user options. <br>
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cite="mid:56CA6825.2090609@beonex.com" type="cite">
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This illustrates my main point: Messages should be style-formatted
by the reader, not the sender. I understand that this point eludes
most users, but it's nonetheless valid. It only becomes evident
when you think yourself into the reader.
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I agree, but our users do not. let them have their minute of
glory, there is display formatting to fix their excesses. If
Outlook or others lack that optiob, that is a feature request for
them.<br>
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cite="mid:56CA6825.2090609@beonex.com" type="cite">
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Font sizes (standard size for base text and quotes) are another
good example. Elderly people like to make big fonts when writing
messages - because they find it easier to read for themselves -
understandable. What they will be saying is that they want to make
fonts bigger when composing. What they really want is to make
fonts bigger for themselves - and for all messages: composer and
reader alike, even while writing a message, but also while
reading. At the same time, readers should not get their big fonts.
It would make my eyes fall out.
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Our current UI for setting these things is poor, and not understood
by the people it is aimed to help. The Theme Font & Size
Changer add-on is a clear indication Mozilla have issues with the
user interface.. That it has almost 100,000 users is also
relevant, but which are Firefox and which Thunderbird I do not
know. <br>
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I see an argument for display fonts to work in compose as well as
read. Perhaps user interface design could actually improve our
existing option's to please more people. Simply by explaining what
each setting does or even showing it.<br>
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Change the font size in send and you see some text that reflects
that, same with display... all in the same pane, so the difference
between your send font and your display font is clearly
demonstrated.<br>
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cite="mid:56CA6825.2090609@beonex.com" type="cite">
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Ergonomics dictate that all messages that I read should have the
same base font and size and color, no matter who wrote it.
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I though that was why we had display formatting. So the you the
reader could, if you wished enforce that.<br>
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Matt<br>
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“Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.”
<i>― Friedrich von Schiller, Die Jungfrau von Orleans </i></div>
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