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<p>Dear Ben,</p>
<p>but it looks like you replied in plain text? So HTML isn't high
on your priority list right? <span class="moz-smiley-s3"><span>
;-)</span></span><br>
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<p>by the way I am forced to use Outlook as well, and yes it is
unpredictable at times. but it is possible to paste stuff from
word documents without getting huge surprises. The other thing
it has is the styles bar and that just works. You can just
select a style and keep writing; and you can customize your
styles. That's something I would like to be able to do in
Composer.</p>
<p>In our Company people often use colors for showing "quote
level" (*) - you may argue because Outlook is too stupid to show
real quote levels. So removing all color from previous quotes is
not always an advantage. </p>
<p>As regards rich Editing, Outlook feels a lot closer to Word
(table styles!) and as a layout freak I feel I have a lot more
power. If Thunderbird had a native HTML source code editor I
would be satisfied with it but people want tools they understand
without knowing about the underlying language. So they need
customizable styles; since the power of CSS3 is awesome we could
build a really cool UI and better features than Outlook if we
embraced the concept of customizable styles - obviously
harnessing CSS classes under the hood.</p>
<p>(*) one person may reply (inline) in red and then the next one
in green. One may say that this is "retarded" but we should not
ignore the way the ordinary user is going to use a tool. Format
Brush, anyone?</p>
Axel<br>
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background-color:rgba(220,220,240,0.4); border-radius:3px;"> <b>Subject:</b>
Re: Example: Why I believe we need a new HTML editor<br>
<b>From: </b>Ben Bucksch<br>
<b>To:</b> Tb-planning <br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, 16/02/2016 23:30:35 23:30 GMT ST +0000
[Week 7]<br>
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="mid_56C3B11B_2030300_beonex_com"
cite="mid:56C3B11B.2030300@beonex.com" type="cite">Axel Grude
wrote on 16.02.2016 16:35:
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="Cite_7444559" type="cite">Even
though the HTML markup of Outlook (that email addon for
Microsoft word, you may have heard of it) may be atrocious, it
is extremely good at one thing: Giving the user predictable and
manageable layout with a minimum of pain.
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I'm forced to use Outlook at one work place. I have to strongly
disagree. The editor of Outlook is outright horrible. It also
changes my fonts all the time. I regularly end up writing emails
with 2 different fonts. I have no idea how that happens. Worse, it
doesn't go back to normal fonts after pasting something, so I
often end up either writing the whole message in Courier or having
to manually fix up fonts.
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Outlook drives me nuts to no end.
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And, FWIW, I do not think that presentation is something the
author should determine, but rather the recipient, the reader. I
do *not* want to see replies in red - they are extremely hard to
read for me. Luckily, I can ignore all that nonsense with "View as
| Simple HTML" - in TB, but not in Outlook.
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Ben
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