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<div id="smartTemplate4-template"><i>Garrafrauns, 16 February 2016
15:23:43 </i>
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Here is a YouTube comment which is fairly typical for the types
of difficult to answer quesitons I get in my work with users of
the SmartTemplate4 addon. People who want to like the Composer and
do not understand why fonts are not persistent. I don't think any
of the grievances below can be classified as bugs; they are just
grievances against a very outdated tool (Thunderbird composer)
which is probably one of the weakest points of my beloved
Thunderbird.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk-T465fkEw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk-T465fkEw</a><br>
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Highlights by me. I did also answer at YouTube, and I am pretty
sure about 75% of my answers are only 25% correct, but hey, at
least I tried. You may skip the quote if you are short in time.<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 17px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On a different note, since you're an expert Thunderbird user and make add ons, I thought you might have some advice about something. I love Thunderbird; but I hate how it handles fonts.<b> Specifically, I keep losing my default font</b>. I have my default font set to Verdana, and that comes up when I start a new message. However, oftentimes if I paste a graphic into the middle of my message or do something else, I lose my default font, and it goes back to the Thunderbird default font. A<b>t least 50% of the time when I'm comp
osing a message, I have to do Ctrl+A to select all, and select my font to reapply it to everything.</b> Do you know of any way to fix this, or an add-on that handles fonts better?
Also (since we're talking about fonts), here's another thing. <b>When I reply in-line to a message (which I do often), I want to reply in a different color. </b>But there's no setting for that. I can change the default font color temporarily (which is a pain to do); but then it also changes the color of the text in the message I'm replying to, if the message contains a previous message from me! So that doesn't work. So what I do is just change the font color for each in-line reply (again, a pain); or I do it once, and then copy a single letter from that colored text, and then just paste it at the start of each in in-line reply (better; but, again, a pain). Do you know of an add-on that allows you to set the color for in-line replies? Or, if you want to make one, that would be a great help, and I'd gladly buy one. (This is a huge time-waster for me.)
Last, bulleting in Thunderbird.<b> I hate how bulleted items have no vertical space between them.</b> Tried to set this under Format | List Properties | Advanced Edit, but was unable to. Do you know of a way to do this, or of an add-on that allows you to set vertical space between list items? (Right now I'm just doing Shift+Enter at the end of each list item to insert a line break to add space. Again, a pain!)
Thanks for any tips! </span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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If you want to read as little as possible here are some core
requirements:<br>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 17px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b>I keep losing my default font
</b></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 17px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b>I want to reply in a different color.
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 17px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b>I hate how bulleted items have no vertical space between them.</b></span><br>
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In a way each of these statements shows that there is a problem
with configurability and persistance of styles; and this probably
doesn't even address the changes the email will undergo once it is
viewed on a different email system; this is just purely in the
context of Editing and Viewing in composer. Even though the HTML
markup of Outlook (that email addon for Microsoft word, you may
have heard of it) may be atrocious, it is extremely good at one
thing: Giving the user predictable and manageable layout with a
minimum of pain. I think integration of customizable styles is
something that is sorely lacking. <br>
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How would you reply to the above requirements, other than "give
up on HTML and only use plain text"? I have spentg many many hours
explaining users how to insert CSS in order to achieve stuff like
that.<br>
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Other email clients are able to do it. But Thunderbird would be
able to <i>display it </i>using clean, standardized markup.<br>
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PS: thanks for fixing the Enter => <p> bug ! And now let
me press [Enter][Enter] to get to the regards ...<br>
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regards<br>
Axel<br>
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Software Developer
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Thunderbird Add-ons Developer
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