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<div id="smartTemplate4-template">Also a comment on fastness &
stability: I have about 57 Gbyte footprint (when I backup all my
mail accounts which happen weekly) and although startup can take a
little while (20 / 30 secs until fully responsive) once it runs,
it just runs. I mainly use POP3 because of a not blazingly fast
internet connection (4G)<br>
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Conversely my exchange server based outlook constantly crashes and
is just slow as hell when a folder has more than 5000 emails in
it. Also it crashes quite a lot, even after repairing and
redownloading the outlook.pst file and even though there are
company enforced quotas. Outlook has other advantages (such as
better Calendar integration) but Thunderbird is head and shoulders
above it as regards stability and speed.<br>
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There is something to be said for a local message store, if we
have beefy enough hardware to deal with it.<br>
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Axel<br>
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Re: Why is WebMail better?<br>
<b>To:</b> Tb-planning <br>
<b>From: </b>Ben Bucksch<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 16/12/2015 06:55:21 06:55 GMT ST
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<div dir="ltr">The IMAP protocol is slow because it is poorly
designed. It is single threaded with every transaction
requiring a separate request/response. So one big file causes
everything to jam up. Sorting of messages takes place in the
client and the changes are uploaded back to the server.
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<div>Gmail also optimizes the user experience by separating
out metadata downloads from content and message data from
attachments. Their protocol is S/MIME aware while IMAP is
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<div>These are all fixable.</div>
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I'd like to correct some mis-information above.<br>
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<li>Thunderbird's IMAP implementation is multi-threaded. (In
fact, it's pretty much the only multi-threaded thing in all of
TB, if I remember correctly.)</li>
<li>The protocol itself is asynchronous. You can issue several
commands at (almost) the same time, and the second can finish
before the first. This is basically the same concept that
node.js follows, which is very fast and modern. IMAP had this
20 years ago, on a protocol level.<br>
(Thunderbird additionally uses one thread and connection per
folder. I don't remember whether TB uses the async nature of
IMAP very much.)</li>
<li>IMAP does separate metadata from content. For that purposes,
it parses email messages on the server, and can return the
headers of an email separately from the body, and the body
separate from the attachments. That, too, was very modern for
its time.</li>
<li>IMAP and Thunderbird are blazingly fast on my machine here.
The folder with my primary work project has currently about
15000 emails, and is sufficiently fast. QuickSearch in TB is
almost instant, it takes about 1s to search the whole folder
for a subject.<br>
(Admittedly, my IMAP server is on my local network. Maybe the
slowness you encounter might be attributed to a slow IMAP
server or a slow desktop machine?)</li>
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TB has serious problems, no doubt. But they are not those you
mentioned.<br>
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