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      Strange. I had posted this message as thread opener, to give
      context, but it apparently didn't arrive at the mailing list.
      Posting again:<br>
      <br>
      Ben Bucksch wrote on 16.12.2015 09:36:<br>
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            <p>Re-posted from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2302">https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2302</a><br>
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            <p><br>
              Thunderbird notes 2015-12-15. NOON PT (Pacific). For
              meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see <a
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings</a></a>
            </p>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Attendees">Attendees</h3>
            <ul>
              <li> jorgk, marcoagpinto, ba, mkmelin, makemyday, aceman </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="MAIN_FOCUS_OF_MEETING">MAIN
              FOCUS OF MEETING</h3>
            <ul>
              <li> version 45 </li>
              <li> governance, futures (rkent: nothing I want to
                volunteer, but I can answer questions). </li>
              <li> builds </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Action_items_from_last_meetings">Action

              items from last meetings</h3>
            <ul>
              <li> Thunderbird Council reorganization: we’ll discuss
                this in the Council directly and do some reorganization.
                This is not a forever governance plan, but we need to be
                practical given the many demands of the moment. </li>
              <li> we should really clean up the module owners and peers
                at <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
                  href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/MailNews_Core"
                  rel="nofollow">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/MailNews_Core</a>
                and <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
                  href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Thunderbird"
                  rel="nofollow">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Modules/Thunderbird</a>.
                Candidates for removal: Bienvenu, standard8, sid0,
                JosiahOne. </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline"
              id="Current_status_.2F_Announcements">Current status /
              Announcements</h3>
            <ul>
              <li> Etherpads see list of names at <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
                  href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird"
                  rel="nofollow"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird</a></a>
                and <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
                  href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/calendar"
                  rel="nofollow">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/calendar</a>
              </li>
              <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird38-support-issues"
                  rel="nofollow">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird38-support-issues</a>
                for version 38 ESR issues </li>
              <li> Tree status issues: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external free"
                  href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-tree-status"
                  rel="nofollow">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-tree-status</a>
                <ul>
                  <li> Please help green up the tree – including not
                    only c-c but also esr38, beta, and aurora
                    <ul>
                      <li> Please be aggressive filing bugs, and fixing
                        what you can, so dev checkins can occur when
                        patches become available. </li>
                      <li> If a bug breaks nightly or beta build or
                        tests, please make severity=blocker </li>
                      <li> Please prioritize reviews/feedback requests
                        in your queue that are tree issues! </li>
                    </ul>
                  </li>
                </ul>
              </li>
              <li> Thunderbird 45: string freeze 2015-12-14, interface
                freeze later (that’s me demanding a concession like last
                year). </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Current_Release_Critical_Issues">Current

              Release Critical Issues</h3>
            <p>Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If
              confirmed, then remove. </p>
            <ul>
              <li> tracking-tb38 flags: approved(+)+unfixed in ESR: <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="http://mzl.la/1LDrkxP"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mzl.la/1LDrkxP">http://mzl.la/1LDrkxP</a></a>
                nominated(?): <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="http://tinyurl.com/pgwflyg">http://tinyurl.com/pgwflyg</a>
              </li>
            </ul>
            <p>blocking </p>
            <ul>
              <li> 38.3.1 <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211160"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1211160</a> calendar 4.0.3.1 is a
                workaround for 38.3.0 — Thunderbird Version 38.3 Buttons
                not working menu items // <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211291"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1211291</a> – Folders are visible,
                but messages are not. (?related to <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211358"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1211358</a> lightning
                chrome.manifest not updated in 38.3.0 ?) </li>
              <li> nightly (3 bugs blocking builds, all are assigned) –
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195442"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1195442</a> – Mac builds broken ~1
                month on nightly </li>
              <li> Fixed – <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183490"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1183490</a> – (dataloss) New emails
                do not adhere to sort by order received
                <ul>
                  <li> Plan is to understand issues in converting
                    completely to nextKey = ++lastKey for non-IMAP, then
                    plan how much to implement for 38.3.0 A simple fix
                    of the dataloss is probable. I have a try patch that
                    does the nextKey = ++lastKey that works, now I need
                    to think about patch for 38 (bug 1202105 needs to go
                    to trunk and 38) </li>
                  <li> update 2015-10-20, patches have been posted but
                    waiting for reviews for 2 weeks (aceman will look at
                    those) </li>
                  <li> update 2015-11-17, review done 11-14, need to
                    update and land. </li>
                </ul>
              </li>
            </ul>
            <p>important (but not top critical) </p>
            <ul>
              <li> status TBD – <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1182629"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1182629</a> – update to 38.1.0 from
                38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning </li>
              <li> status TBD – <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176399"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1176399</a> – Multiple master
                password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled </li>
              <li> status TBD – <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176748"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1176748</a> – fix main thread
                proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato have
                done such fixes in the past) </li>
              <li> filelink, proxy, </li>
              <li> topcrash <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1149287"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1149287</a> is ** 31% of our
                crashes** – see below </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Version_45">Version 45</h3>
            <ul>
              <li> tracking-tb45 flags: unfixed ?/+ – <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
                  href="http://mzl.la/1PMzNiK" rel="nofollow"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mzl.la/1PMzNiK">http://mzl.la/1PMzNiK</a></a>
              </li>
              <li> Items that may need to be checked and tested: gtk3,
                windows 10, windows 64bit? </li>
              <li> hardware acceleration – not looking promising (no
                changes / no testing in recent months) </li>
              <li> jsaccount should come in aurora </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Releases">Releases</h3>
            <ul>
              <li> Past
                <ul>
                  <li> 42.0b2 2015-10-13 (42.0b1 abandoned) </li>
                  <li> 42.0b3 ~2015-09-23 (skipped) </li>
                  <li> 38.4.0 2015-11-25 (quite late) – many release
                    notes issues HOWEVER, mostly uneventful with regard
                    to Lightning updates. YAY! </li>
                  <li> 43.0b1 skipping/DOA/Mac repack problems in build
                    automation <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="external text"
                      href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231174"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1231174</a> <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
                      href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-release-43b1"
                      rel="nofollow"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-release-43b1">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-release-43b1</a></a>
                  </li>
                </ul>
              </li>
              <li> Upcoming – <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  free"
href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar#Future_branch_dates"
                  rel="nofollow">https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar#Future_branch_dates</a>
                <ul>
                  <li> STRING FREEZE for version 45 now </li>
                  <li> 38.5.0 immenent <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="external free"
                      href="https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-release-38-5-0"
                      rel="nofollow">https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/thunderbird-release-38-5-0</a>
                  </li>
                  <li> 44.0b1 (pending fixing of Mac repack issues) </li>
                </ul>
              </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Lightning">Lightning</h3>
            <p>Past releases: </p>
            <ul>
              <li> 4.0.1.2 – <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1182264"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1182264</a>, 4.0.2.1 – <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194997"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1194997</a> </li>
              <li> 4.0.3, 4.0.3.1 (no changes compared to 4.0.2.1) </li>
            </ul>
            <p>Upcoming releases: </p>
            <ul>
              <li> 4.0.4 – <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215969"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1215969</a> </li>
              <li> 4.7.0 – <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225778"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1225778</a> (TB 45) </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Round_Table">Round Table</h3>
            <h4 class="mw-headline" id="Jorg_K">Jorg K</h4>
            <ul>
              <li> Landed eight bugs:
                <ul>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=769604"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 769604</a> – font size toolbar
                    button and change increase/decrease size function. </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225904"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1225904</a> – CJK e-mail with
                    long lines gets corrupted </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653342"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 653342</a> – CJK fix serializer
                    flags, support delsp=yes, tie all CJK issues
                    altogether. Automatically fixes <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                      href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26734"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 26734</a> </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230968"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1230968</a> – CJK Missing bit
                    for bug <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                      text"
                      href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26734"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 26734</a> </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230970"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1230970</a> – CJK Regression
                    from CJK stuff, the only one so far </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330891"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 330891</a> – allow
                    <p> to be entered in composition </p>
                  </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232021"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 232021</a> – Copy full name and
                    e-mail from message pane (trivial) </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231017"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1231017</a> – Flowing lost in
                    inline plain text replies </li>
                </ul>
              </li>
              <li> Hunted down two regressions: <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231654"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1231654</a> and <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231887"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1231887</a>. Looked at Korean
                auto-complete <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1058491"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1058491</a> </li>
              <li> Awaiting review:
                <ul>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1175839"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1175839</a> – JSMime
                    regression, square brackets not quoted correctly. </li>
                  <li> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231917"
                      rel="nofollow">bug 1231917</a> – funny artefacts
                    when replying to a saved message. </li>
                </ul>
              </li>
            </ul>
            <h4 class="mw-headline" id="rkent">rkent</h4>
            <ul>
              <li> I have really for got to focus on JsAccount for the
                next month, as it is absolutely critical for me to get
                this landed in TB38. </li>
              <li> Many thanks to those who got tests working in TB 45,
                and have been uplifting test fixes to aurora and beta. </li>
            </ul>
            <h4 class="mw-headline" id="aceman">aceman</h4>
            <ul>
              <li> practicing check ins <img moz-do-not-send="true"
                  src="cid:part43.06060107.00040508@beonex.com" alt=":)"
                  class="wp-smiley"> </li>
              <li> fixing some bugs in tests so that the tree is
                greener, like <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external
                  text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id="
                  rel="nofollow">1231036</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id="
                  rel="nofollow">998710</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id="
                  rel="nofollow">1232485</a> </li>
            </ul>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Question_Time">Question Time</h3>
            <p>When will we get 64 bit Thunderbird builds on Windows.
              They are built right now for Daily, for example:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external free"
href="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/2015/12/2015-12-15-03-02-04-comm-central/thunderbird-46.0a1.en-US.win64.installer.exe"
                rel="nofollow">http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/2015/12/2015-12-15-03-02-04-comm-central/thunderbird-46.0a1.en-US.win64.installer.exe</a>
            </p>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Other">Other</h3>
            <h4 class="mw-headline" id="ba">ba</h4>
            <p>Regarding the question on Enigmail/p≡p, the installation
              will be a single executable file that will include
              everything if it is installed as add-on. In Microsoft
              Outlook, a similar p≡p plug-in installation takes 5 clicks
              and 10 seconds without asking a single question.
              Patrick/Volker will provide more input on this via the
              wiki once it is set-up.</p>
            <h3 class="mw-headline" id="Help_Wanted">Help Wanted</h3>
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              <li> Support lead
                <ul>
                  <li> Revise lightning articles on SUMO: <a
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                  </li>
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              </li>
              <li> Accessibility lead </li>
              <li> Person comfortable (not necessarily technical
                experts) with Core type issues. Example, graphics to
                guide <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="external text"
                  href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195947"
                  rel="nofollow">bug 1195947</a> Thunderbird hardware
                acceleration (HWA) issues to be resolved</li>
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