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That's pretty powerful, from the President/CEO of Red Hat:<br>
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"<strong>What one piece of Linux software do you depend upon? Why is
it so important?</strong>
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<p>I use <a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/">Thunderbird</a>
more than any other application—because I get a lot of email!
I’m often on planes, and Thunderbird gives me offline access
to my email, which is helpful when I’m in the sky and outside
wireless range. I know people debate the merits of Thunderbird
versus Evolution, but I started on Thunderbird and now I just
default to it. I feel like Thunderbird lets me display more of
my email at once, which is great for managing it all.</p>
<p>I also use <a href="http://www.google.com/chrome/">Chrome</a>
because it also makes working offline very easy. I use <a
href="https://www.libreoffice.org/">LibreOffice</a>
regularly. I even <a
href="https://opensource.com/open-organization/15/6/patching-management-patching-code">used
it to write my book</a>."</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/16/2015 9:05 AM, Advrk Aplmrkt
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<pre wrap="">Hello,
Just like to add that Jim Whitehurst's endoresement of Thunderbird here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mylinuxrig.com/post/129154618674/the-linux-setup-jim-whitehurst-presidentceo">http://www.mylinuxrig.com/post/129154618674/the-linux-setup-jim-whitehurst-presidentceo</a>
Not sure if that helps, but he is pretty high profile.
Wish I could help, but I am just an user with no development skills!
Can't wait for a donation, or even bounty system, set up for
Thunderbird.
As an user, THANK YOU to all who has helped kept Thunderbird alive!
On 16/09/2015, Patrick Cloke <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patrick@cloke.us"><patrick@cloke.us></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Joshua,
You've made some great points! (All of which I agree with and have been
unable to put as eloquently as you did.)
On 9/15/15 10:07 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 9/15/2015 3:30 PM, R Kent James wrote:
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<pre wrap="">What I would appreciate at this point are comments on what are the
reasons that Mozilla should accept Thunderbird as an official
project, presumably under the Mozilla Foundation, that provides us
with the structure that we need to succeed. Please help me make The
Case for Thunderbird in Mozilla.
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<pre wrap="">Thunderbird remains the largest open-source email project in
existence, with a total userbase that is larger than some of the
projects that Mozilla considers part of its core mission.
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<pre wrap="">I think rkent has access to some of these numbers, we should cite that
here (i.e. we're not just making up numbers). Comparing directly to
other Mozilla projects might be a bit aggressive, however.
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<pre wrap="">This userbase size makes it uniquely positioned to champion the goals
of the Open Web in the wider email and messaging standardization
community, a factor which cannot be guaranteed for other, smaller
projects within Mozilla's umbrella. A good recent example is that
Thunderbird's objections to the SASL OAuth specification as
then-proposed did result in a strong impetus for dynamic client
registration, with Thunderbird cited as an explicit use case.
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<pre wrap="">Do we have any newsgroup / mailing list / whatever threads to back up
this claim?
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<pre wrap="">It should be noted that the messaging world is at great risk of moving
to closed, proprietary silos. Thunderbird's large userbase and ability
to cooperate with the open alternatives in this area gives it more
bargaining power to help pry open some of these silos.
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<pre wrap="">Mozilla manifesto #6 (and maybe #2?).
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<pre wrap="">Finally, it is worth noting that Thunderbird is a popular program
among the wider tech community, and many in that community believe the
discontinuation of paid staff on the project to have been a mistake on
the part of Mozilla.
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<pre wrap="">Wasn't there a slew of articles written praising Thunderbird for v38?
Maybe linking to some of those might be good.
I don't have much else to add, besides reinforcing that the statements
being made are true for not just email, but instant messaging in
general. (Frankly, they're probably more true as Google and Facebook
continue to tighten their leash on IM and are slowly removing
interoperability with open protocols while refusing to even document
their new protocols.) The trend here brings me back to the 90s where
everyone was in a walled garden.
It could be interesting to take the 10 points of the Manifesto and show
how TB greatly contributes to all of them.
--Patrick
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