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<div id="smartTemplate4-template">I know there is a bug for this but
I cannot find it:<br>
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<li>In HTML mode, "Paragraph" style should be preselected, not
body.</li>
<li>Enter should create / split <p> </p></li>
<li>Shift-Enter should create <br></li>
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So many people get it wrong (only press Enter once) and then their
paragraphs are "glued together". This is something so fundamental,
and works so well in Outlook. Expectation in HTML is that pressing
Enter simply starts a new paragraph. Unfortunately most people
have no concept of paragraphs, but they see them all the time in
their word editing / layout software. Most of these have a
visibility switch for paragraph marks.<br>
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thanks,<br>
Axel<br>
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href="mailto:axel.grude@gmail.com">Axel Grude</a></b>
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Software Developer
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Thunderbird Add-ons Developer
<span style="color:#666666; font-size:xx-small">(QuickFolders,
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background-color:rgba(220,220,240,0.4); border-radius:3px;"> <b>Subject:</b>
Re: The infamous Mozilla core editor<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tb-planning@mozilla.org">tb-planning@mozilla.org</a> <br>
<b>From: </b>Jörg Knobloch<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, 06/03/2015 06:15:17 06:15 GMT ST +0000
[Week 9]<br>
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="mid_54F945F5_5090009_jorgk_com"
cite="mid:54F945F5.5090009@jorgk.com" type="cite">On 6/03/2015
00:25, R Kent James wrote:
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="Cite_2950729" type="cite">Just to be
clear, there are no current plans to try to persuade Mozilla to
increase their support of areas that are important to
Thunderbird, either directly or indirectly. (This is partly
because we hear from multiple Mozilla sources that it would be a
waste of effort to do so).
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This is the part that for a newcomer is very hard to understand.
The architecture is such that a "core" product exists, call it as
you wish, Mozilla Central, Firefox, Gecko, that is used by a
plethora of "add-on" applications, Thunderbird being the most
important one.
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Mozilla actively "advertise" embedding their product:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko/Embedding_Mozilla">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Gecko/Embedding_Mozilla</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rich-Text_Editing_in_Mozilla">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Rich-Text_Editing_in_Mozilla</a>
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How can it be possible that a product actively used by other
software and actively advertised to other projects is not
maintained in a way that at least blatant bugs are fixed?
<br>
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(Note: The other area Thunderbird is experiencing problems with is
the "toolkit" used for auto-complete when entering recipients.)
<br>
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<blockquote class=" cite" id="Cite_3379169" type="cite">Our
current goals are to operate as an independent project under the
Mozilla umbrella, to be allowed to raise funds and otherwise
operate as a legitimate, self-governing group. As far as we know
there are no serious policy obstacles to this, only procedural
issues that we are trying to overcome. </blockquote>
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That is fine and understood. However, the argument - as far as I
understood - will be that Thunderbird is an important product
supplied by Mozilla, that its usage is increasing, that there are
many voices calling for better support, etc. So why can't one of
the facets be better support for Mozilla's core product?
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Let's waste the time and get a *clear statement* on that before
ripping out the existing editor and replacing it with something
else as some people suggested !
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Kind regards, Jorg K.
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P.S.: As Ehsan explained: The editor has two modes, the simple
text mode which is used for - dare I say without being able to
supply statistics - most text entry fields on the web, and the
HTML mode used by Thunderbird and on rare occasions also
elsewhere. I personally have not seen any website using it,
although Ehsan once said he noticed an editor bug when using
Gmail.
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P.S.2: I'm happy that no one criticised my statement that it is
important for the perception of the quality of Thunderbird that
entering recipient addresses and text body works without obvious
errors.
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