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<div id="smartTemplate4-template">All,<br>
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I think this is a great start. Would agree with 3 months seeming
short, but since this is all new I am sure it stabilize at a
bigger period.<br>
<br>
Unfortunately I couldn't follow the live event because Vidyo just
doesn't play well with my Windows 7 setup here but if you guys
need another person to speak on behalf of the Addons developers
(ok you got at least 2 very strong people on the team already) I
am available! I am still 100% committed to making Thunderbird the
best mail client out there (especially since I am having to suffer
to <b>daily outlook crashes </b>at my bread job). I must say
that the factors <b>stability and persistance </b>are actually
becoming bigger "selling points" the longer I am forced to work in
a corporate environment. Microsoft probably doesn't have enough
good developers to maintain a proper product for the desktop (*),
so as long as there is a desktop I see a future for Thunderbird.<br>
<br>
Also, I would like to see a "monetization" team that help both
funding Thunderbird and helping productivity Addon developers to
self fund (not necessarily with money, but a proper market-place
experience or subscription channels would be great) to make this a
better product. We have seen some feedback on people being opposed
to monetization in form of <i>landing pages</i> / <i>asking for
donation</i>s. IMO these users should have an option for a
yearly "silent" subscription, e.g. 10$/year. i think a free (as in
beer) product should have some way of asking for direct means <b>to
fund itself </b>(<u>NO THIRD PARTY ADVERTISEMENTS</u>!!!). It
has to be clear that Thunderbird is independent and as such must
fund <b>itself</b> independently.<br>
<br>
(*) all their recent efforts point towards thin client / moving
programming logic to the cloud<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Axel<br>
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Gervase Markham - <a>gerv@mozilla.org</a> <br>
<b>From: </b>Patrick Cloke <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:clokep@gmail.com"><clokep@gmail.com></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Summit Part 1: Governance
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<div dir="ltr">Gerv,<br>
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Kent did not include it in this email, but the gist of the plan
(to my understanding) was to have this initial set of people
serve 1 year terms and then to define longer terms and
guidelines in some sort of charter. I think we discussed 2 year
terms at the Summit with ~half the Council up for election each
year, but 3 year terms is reasonable as well!<br>
<br>
Thanks for your input,<br>
Patrick<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:52 AM,
Gervase Markham <span dir="ltr"><<a
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I'm very excited to hear about these changes, which I'm
sure will be<br>
good for the project.<br>
<span class=""><br>
On 21/10/14 03:57, Kent James wrote:<br>
> The Thunderbird Core Team nominated and elected 7
individuals to the<br>
> Thunderbird Council, with an initial term of 1
year. The Thunderbird<br>
> Council consists of:<br>
><br>
> Mike Conley<br>
> Joshua Cranmer<br>
> Kent James<br>
> Philipp Kewisch<br>
> Magnus Melin<br>
> Wayne Mery<br>
> Florian Quèze<br>
><br>
> The Thunderbird Council got together, and agreed
that Kent James would<br>
> server as initial Chairperson, with an initial
term of 3 months.<br>
<br>
</span>These terms and timelines seem rather short to
me. While democratic<br>
accountability is important, continuity and the ability
to get stuff<br>
done without having to administer elections all the time
is also important.<br>
<br>
I would encourage the Council and the core team to
consider perhaps a<br>
3-year term for Council membership with 2, 2 and 3
positions coming up<br>
for re-election in each of the 3 years (with the initial
terms of the<br>
initial members chosen randomly). This sort of scheme
seems to have<br>
worked well elsewhere, with a good mix of change and
continuity.<br>
<br>
Whatever you decide, I look forward to the bright future
:-)<br>
<br>
Gerv<br>
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