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I think as long as the statistics are calculated according to user
adoption <b><i>per application</i></b>, it is "kind of" fair to
have them there - of course they have a much bigger chance of
advertisement (and so, an unfair advantage) through their already
existing Fx user base. However, it would be nice to have these
"Browsing" related Addons in Thunderbird in a separate Category.
Which reminds me, what about my suggestions on the new
categorization for Thunderbird:<br>
<br>
<br>
Can we have a decision on<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-amo-category-improvements">https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-amo-category-improvements</a> <br>
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pretty please? And would flash be under "browsing", "reading" or
"misecallaneus" ?? I think I listed them in the "To Be Discussed"
list.<br>
<br>
For your convenience, copy of the categories list as it was
discussed on etherpad here:<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div class="" id="magicdomid4"><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">consolidated list (includes
6 existing categories)</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid5"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid6"><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp b"><b>Must Haves</b></span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid7"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid8"><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">here is a revised list with
less items and some example extensions</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid9"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid10">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Contacts {google
contact, morefunction for address book, funambol}</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid11">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Message & News
Reading {Conversations, Image Zoom, LookOut, Foxy Proxy,
Compact Header, DispMUA)</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid12">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Folders &
Filters {QuickFolders, FiltaQuilla, Quick Folder Move,
Quick Filer, Folder Flags, Copy Sent to Current,
Mail Summaries}</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid13">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Message </span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">C</span><span class="">omposi</span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">tion {highlight text,
signature-switch, shrunked image resizer, Stationery,
smartTemplate4}</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid14">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Calendar & Date / Time</span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp"> {Lightning,
ReminderFox, FoxClocks, Sun Cult, </span><span
class="author-g-b6mm8kkkekmao0y5">Provider for Google
Calendar</span><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">,
ThunderBirthDay}</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid15">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Dictionaries & Language support</span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp"> { Quick Translator,
Quick Locale Switcher, Zombie Keys, Disctionary Switcher }</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid16">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="s"><s>Backup & Archiving</s></span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp s"><s> { ??? }</s></span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid17">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Import / Export
{Password Exporter, Message Filter Import/Export,
accountex, ImportExportTools}</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid18">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">P</span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">rivacy </span><span
class="">& Security</span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp"> {Password Exporter,
EnigMail, Master Password+,..}</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid19">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Appearance</span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp"> & Customization
(could include addons that configure themes)</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid20">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Miscellaneus</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid21"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid22"><font color="#cc0000"><br>
</font></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid23"><font color="#cc0000"><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">11 must have items this
time. The main objective should be simple browsing so that
specific extensions can be found even by inexperienced mail
users.</span></font></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid24"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid25"><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp b"><b>To be Discussed</b></span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid26"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid27"><font color="#ff0000"><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">I feel some of these
should be there, even though they currently don't have many
Addons.</span></font></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid28"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid29">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Tags {TaQuilla,
Tag Toolbar, Tb Conversations, Tags Toolbar } [Again,
there are very few extensions,so this might not be
important as a category]</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid30">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Chat & IM
{Jabberpresence, TweeQuilla, New Account Types} [this is
going to be more important in the future, even if there
are not many extensions right now]</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid31">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-b6mm8kkkekmao0y5">I think we should
go ahead and do it now, this might encourage addon
developers in some form. If the category is going to be
empty though, it wouldn't be nice.</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid32">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">hmm, I simply
can't find _any_ chat specific Addons, maybe I was wrong
:( there are a few at </span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp url"><a
href="https://addons.instantbird.org">https://addons.instantbird.org</a></span><span
class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp"> but I wouldn't bank on
them being ported to TB any time soon.</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid33">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Signatures &
Headers [although I think they are important, there are
probably not enough different extensions in this field]</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid34">
<ul class="list-bullet2">
<li><span class="author-g-b6mm8kkkekmao0y5">I think this can
go away. You said in tb-planning there is at least one
extension that modifies the headers of existing email. I
think a such extension could go for "Message Reading".</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid35">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Browsing [IMO this
is unimportant from the mail users view?]</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid36">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="author-g-bp45rxxysccqnvhp">Search Tools
[there is not all that many addons dealing with this in
tb]</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid37"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid38"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid39"><span class="">Some questions
about add-ons classification:</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid40"><span class="">What does : </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid41">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Mail Summaries, </span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid42">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Deselect On Delete,</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid43">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">Attachment options</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid44">
<ul class="list-bullet1">
<li><span class="">ThunderPlunger</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid45"><span class="">do in the "News
Reading" category??? I haven't list them all, but I guess that
</span><span class="b"><b>someone should take the time to be
sure that the add-ons are well categorize</b></span><span
class=""> (ie: who is responsible for that?)... These are
choosen by the authors. Maybe wrong because of lack of
categories?</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid46"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid47"><span class="">As the developer
of the first three add-ons, they're listed in the news
reading category because they affect news messages as well as
mail messages.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid48"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid49"><span class="">Create
examples/tutorials for using the Addon Builder and SDK (</span><span
class=" url"><a href="https://builder.addons.mozilla.org/%29">https://builder.addons.mozilla.org/)</a></span><span
class=""> for Thunderbird add-ons.</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid50"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid51"><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn b"><b>Popular Add-on Issues</b></span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid52"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid53"><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn">We should also avoid that
the most popular add-on listed on </span><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn url"><a
href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/</a></span><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn"> (on the right pane) are
Addblock + and Flashblock, which are useless on Thunderbird!
On Feeds they could be useful (ABP works, but I can't say if
Flash works in RSS)</span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid54"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid55"><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn">The problem is both
measuring the popularity (which doesn't seem to count Fx and
Tb separately) plus the obvious much bigger exposure that
"Hybrid" Extensions get. </span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid56"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid57"><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn">This issue is covered here:
</span><span class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn url"><a
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556135">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=556135</a></span></div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid58"><br>
</div>
<div class="" id="magicdomid59"><span
class="author-g-jqmf49ikysb5fkxn">It is also no clear
whether featured extensions currently "works" and what its
exact criteria are. IMO featured extensions should change
more often and should focus on mail-centric add-ons.</span></div>
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Axel<br>
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<div id="newHeader"> <b>To: </b>"Vincent,
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<pre wrap="">I don't think so. TB does pick up flash plugin if it is installed system wide (even on Linux). I often have to disable it im addons manager after Flash upgrade.
Also, TB seems to have full browsing capability (just no address bar, but surely some extension exposes it). So blocking ads/malware is relevant to TB too, albeit it may be used by much less users.
Spam and remote images in messages are a completely different topic.
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<pre wrap="">Od: "Vincent" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:el.cameleon.1@gmail.com"><el.cameleon.1@gmail.com></a>
Komu: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tb-planning@mozilla.org">"tb-planning@mozilla.org"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tb-planning@mozilla.org"><tb-planning@mozilla.org></a>
Dátum: 19.11.2012 17:21
Predmet: Re: Extension Categories Review
Sorry, FlashGot is not relative to Flash Content (I have mingled it with
FlashBlock) but it is a download manager (which is quite useless in
Thunderbird too)...
2012/11/19 Vincent <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:el.cameleon.1@gmail.com"><el.cameleon.1@gmail.com></a>
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<pre wrap="">As Thunderbird doesn't have any flash plugin, I really doubt there is an
interested in blocking flash content.
Spam are already filtered by the spam filter and remotes images are also
block by default, so I also don't see the interest in using AdBlock+... In
any case even if it could be useful for some privacy fanatics, we shouldn't
promote it this way, because as it is now you got the impression that it is
a must have.
2012/11/19 Tanstaafl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tanstaafl@libertytrek.org"><tanstaafl@libertytrek.org></a>
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<pre wrap="">On 2012-11-19 5:54 AM, Vincent <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:el.cameleon.1@gmail.com"><el.cameleon.1@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Another point is : What can we make in order to avoid Adblock+ and
FlashBlock from being in the top of our TB add-ons? Should we ask the
author to remove TB compatibility?
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<pre wrap="">
Hi Vincent,
I'm probably reading this wrong, but that seems like it will prevent
users from making Thunderbird more secure. Am I missing something?
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