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Axel, <br>
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First, I think it is a good idea to investigate if there can be an
outside fund collecting money for Thunderbird. We have a proposal
from MoFo, but it's worth looking if there are better options, be it
for the sake of identifying yet unknown issues.<br>
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Second, I don't think we're opposed to discussing the role of an
outside leader, but you'll need to define what it means, what
profile, what mission, what reporting... This boils down to the
conversation we have had on the need (or lack) of project/product
management back in Warsaw and on this mailing list. I am personally
not convinced Thunderbird needs an additional layer of management at
the moment, but as expressed many times, I am happy to be convinced
of the opposite. In addition, I am convinced we can revise the
governance model as we progress past TB 17.<br>
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(as a personal note, I hate the idea that this debate becomes a
Mozilla vs the community, ie us vs. them. We (as much as I do) trust
the community enough to call it to bridge and let it steer. It is
pretty much as if you were buying a car, paying the maintenance and
insurance, and putting someone else behind the wheel. Would you do
this for someone you don't trust ?)<br>
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Jb<br>
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Predmet: Re: Generating revenue for TB and "What do we need money for"
On 4.10.2012 23:27, Kent James wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 10/4/2012 1:17 PM, Mike Conley wrote:
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<pre wrap="">the money cannot be used to hire or contract additional developers.
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<pre wrap="">That seems to pretty severely handicap the future of Thunderbird, as we are
prevented from doing with money that we raise ourselves precisely what Mozilla
used to do but pulled the funding for.
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<pre wrap="">Exactly!
-Magnus
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<pre wrap="">Then the money should be collected outside of Mozilla and then we can do anything with it and Mozilla can't interfere :)</pre>
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Kent and me discussed this approach briefly with Mitchel on
MozCamp, but it is tricky... My personal feeling is that Tb needs
an "Outside" business leader in order to bring it forward. <br>
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In my personal opinion, with the stated mission (Focus on Fx OS),
having somebody from Mozilla Internal leading it is not in
Thunderbird's best interest. At the moment it feels like we are
just in "waiting" mode...<br>
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