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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">+1 on Eric's great Western
Blazing Saddles reference! One of my favourite movies!<br>
and I agree with what Kent wrote!<br>
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I asked Mozilla Foundation Badge Expert Peter Rawsthorne for his
feedback and here's what he wrote:<br>
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START OF PETER RAWSTHORNE'S EMAIL THREAD ON BADGES<br>
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<td>Re: could you please chime in on this TB badges thread on
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<td>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:10:37 -0700 (PDT)</td>
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Roland,
I just wanted to chime in on this google group thread.
First off, I get (and, in some ways, agree with) what Eric and Kent
are saying. Badges mean <br>
<pre>different things to different people, and people have different motivations. What I think
is most important is that we don't know what may motivate another, but recognition is one
of those things that is pretty universal (to different degrees) as motivation for
people. Particularly, the open source / open contribution communities.
The other thing that I find interesting about open badges is how both the criteria and
evidence are baked into the badge. So when somebody has a badge others can really take a
look at what the badge is about and what it took to earn the badge. As Kent said, people
later in their career may not be so interested in a badge, but those starting out wanting
to get some "swagger" and have verifiable public recognition, the badge is a great thing...
Thanks for forwarding this thread along...
Be Well...
Peter
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:peter@mozillafoundation.org">peter@mozillafoundation.org</a>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:27:56 PM
Subject: could you please chime in on this TB badges thread on tb-planning?
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tb-planning/84Sv_qvNsio">https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tb-planning/84Sv_qvNsio</a> [1-25]
OR
let me know your reaction and I'll reply :-)
I prefer the former because I am lazy!
have a great weekend, Peter!
...Roland
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/08/2012 8:44 AM, Kent James
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On 8/9/2012 5:24 PM, Eric Moore wrote:<br>
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font-size: 14px;" lang="x-western"> My impression is that the
only people who want badges for Thunderbird are Mozilla
employees. I don't see the point.</div>
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Anne presented some of these ideas at the weekly Thunderbird video
conference a few weeks ago, and my initial comments were much like
yours. My impressions were that this is something akin to t-shirts
that we give people to persuade them to work a little harder for
free on Mozilla projects.<br>
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But as I thought about it some more, my attitude has changed. As I
understand it, open badges are attacking a very different problem.<br>
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As people develop in their professional careers, they collect a
series of verifiable achievements that can be used to introduce
themselves to potential employers or clients - or simply to their
colleagues. When I read resumes (and I have probably read tens of
thousands over my career), I am always looking for little signs of
excellence that show ability and motivation outside of the norm.
Certain activities fit well here: colleges issue degrees,
technical organizations like Cisco and Microsoft have
certification programs, some groups have achievement awards.
Regular jobs also provide a verifiable record of experience. But
"volunteered for Mozilla" is not really in the same class
currently. Open badges, done well and with integrity, could
provide an alternate form of credentials that would recognize
achievement and ability in activities performed at Mozilla.<br>
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So the ideal of open badges is to provide defined, verifiable
credentials that would be added to other credential programs.
Personally I think this is a worthy goal in general (particularly
since the costs of college education have gotten out of control,
and technical innovation in education and recognition is sorely
needed). I am at a point in my career where I don't think that I
would be motivated by badges, but I suspect that there are others
would be.<br>
<br>
rkent<br>
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