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<div id="newHeader"> <b>To: </b>"Axel"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:axel.grude@googlemail.com"><axel.grude@googlemail.com></a>
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<b>From: </b>"Patrick Cloke"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:clokep@gmail.com"><clokep@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>CC: </b>"tb-planning" <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tb-planning@mozilla.org">tb-planning@mozilla.org</a> <br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, 20/07/12 22:12:08 22:12 GMT +0100 [Week
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<b>Subject:</b>Re: TB End Users survey - do not distribute</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/2012 3:57 PM, Axel wrote:<br>
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<div>I was actually referring to using Outlook + Lync here
though, but really my point was just that it's useful when
you receive an email to know what that person is currently
doing (can you call, IM, stop by or email them back).<br>
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Yesss! Thunderbird gets at least 50% more useful with that -
well in a group <i>working </i>environment, that is. Thing is,
I don't make a habit of firing up my chat client on my private
machine (partly because I am spoiled for choice - YM? MSN?
Skype?), but if it was just a switch in Tb, I would very likely
have it running all day.<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">There are many
features that can be supported via IM though (potentially
voice, video, white boarding, screen sharing...just to
name a few). Luckily both the IRC and XMPP
implementations in Instantbird/Thunderbird are fairly
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double cool. Is there a plan to integrate a thin client IRC out
of the box (rather than having to bolt on chatZilla)? That would
be the most useful for me personally. At the moment I am using
chatZilla via SM to keep my Thunderbird profile "cleanish".<br>
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A "thin client IRC out of the box"? XMPP and IRC are supported
(and therefore, Google Talk and Facebook Chat since they are
XMPP). I'm not sure of what your question is then. I guess I'm
not understanding what you mean by "thin client" or why you would
rather use ChatZilla instead of the built-in IRC. </blockquote>
Give it to me, if it works :P<br>
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Possibly because I haven't tried it yet :) Wenn I started using IRC
I used kvIrc, which was a really scarring experience. chatZilla was
a great improvement on that, but still not quite "there" in terms of
integration.<br>
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cite="mid:5009C9A8.2080008@gmail.com" type="cite">(And how it
makes the profile "dirtyish".)<br>
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Well, the chatZilla (as IRC client) is quite a huge interface, with
big settings screens and lots of (too many) complicated UI settings.
with 331 kBytes I would call it quite a heavyweight... I guess by
thin client I mean something more integrated, and little more
minimal; sort of like facebook chat, just with full command line
support... of course it needs tabs for multi-channel support.<br>
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Since I have 5 Thunderbird+ (SM,Pb and some FX) extensions that
need to be cared for and I have many reboots over the day I don't
even know whether I could use IRC on my production Thunderbird,
unless it would buffer conversations and re-load them between
restarts. So I might actually have to stick with chatZilla in SM...
the big advantage of IRC is that it is more or less designed to run
permanently, unobtrusively in the background, and bundles many
conversations into one channel.<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> And we'll definitely
encourage that for any other protocols added to chat/
(anyone want to make a SIP/SIMPLE implementation?) :)<span
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there might be some scope in papercuts here? Don't know how much
work is involved. We need some interns for this kind of work!!
;)<br>
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This is certainly more than a papercut. :)<br>
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like I said, we need interns! :)<br>
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Ax<br>
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