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On 9/8/10 6:41 PM, JoeS wrote:
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<font face="Arial">OK guys, clue me (and other loyal TB testers)
in here.<br>
Are we out of money<br>
In a re-group phase<br>
Bored..or disinterested<br>
What...<br>
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I see so little participation here, or in IRC, or in bug triage,
I just have to ask.<br>
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I suspect there are a number of things going on here. One is that
because we've reorganized our development processes some, as
discussed previously on this list,<font face="Arial"> a number of
developers have shifted focus to various non-core experiments and
add-ons, with the intent that some of those things will land in
the core over time. One of the consequences of this is that
people don't need to coordinate as much over IRC, because they're
not bumping into each other in the process of coding as much.<br>
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One way in which we try to keep observers informed of the things
that are going on is using our weekly status meeting notes
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings"><https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings></a>, which
are fairly active.<br>
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As far as bug triage is concerned, it's not obvious to me why or
how this would have changed significantly. Perhaps others have
thoughts here, but it might help if you could characterize any
more specificly where you're seeing less activity.<br>
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face="Arial"> My personal interest is the improvement of core
HTML editor, as I think that is key to new user adoptions in TB.
To that end, I see a new champion, that might take us out of the
mire in that regard.<br>
That would be <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:ehsan@mozilla.com">ehsan@mozilla.com</a> He seems
interested, involved, and willing to adjust for editor uses
other than Firefox.<br>
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And...He is actually using Thunderbird.<br>
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Yes, Ehsan has done some great work and is indeed super-helpful and
making our lives significantly better. (Thanks, Ehsan!)<br>
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face="Arial"> So, when he files a bug <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594106">594106</a>
I think it should at least get a response.<br>
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Indeed! As has been the case for a long time, we have more bugs
filed than we can easily keep up with, so things sometimes take a
while to get to or fall through the cracks. You've done the right
thing by bringing it to broader attention (thanks!). For the
future, I'd suggest just pinging someone with strong QA chops like
Wayne or Ludo for help is a good way to go on bugs that you think
are important for reasons such as you suggest above.<br>
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Fortunately, it looks like in the time since you sent the message
and I moderated it through, Ludovic has already caught up with it
and requested more info. <br>
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Dan<br>
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