Tb 78 release

Axel Grude axel.grude at gmail.com
Sat Jul 18 07:54:51 UTC 2020

Dear Wayne Mery,

question: surely this only happens if a master password is in place? I have turned off 
all passwords in my Thunderbird password manager, because as far as I can see if you 
are on my computer you are either a burglar or I have invited you in. There is a one 
key "lock" function in Windows for a reason.


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> *Subject:*Re: Tb 78 release
> *From:*Wayne Mery <vseerror at lehigh.edu>
> *To:*Tb-Planning at mozilla.org <tb-planning at mozilla.org>
> *Sent: *Friday, 17/7/2020 10:03
> On 7/17/20 4:19 AM, Matt Harris wrote:
>> Well the first of the tell us what you think folks has made it to support. 
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1295314
>> To quote
>>     So a new change in version 78 is that "Thunderbird will now ask for OS account
>>     password before displaying saved passwords". This is akin to a business or
>>     credit card company asking me for my Social Security Number, in other words,
>>     totally unacceptable. This is a deal killer for me, I'll never update to
>>     version 78.0 as long as this "feature" is in place.
>> So I though I would see what that was all about.  I searched Bugzilla.  Nothing.
>> A general Google search lists loads of copy and paste pages parroting the release 
>> notes text,  but nothing on that expands on the statement.
>> Was this a platform or Thunderbird change.  I have no idea.
>> What does it really affect,  again I have no idea.  It sounds like yet another 
>> thing I will be wanting to disable though!
> I hardly think after a few hours of 78 being live that we can hold this users post 
> out as being representative of what the wider public will think in the coming days.  
> And I don't recall any of the 50k beta users posting about this.
> Yes, what you are seeing is a platform change - Firefox has the same feature to 
> protect saved passwords, superseding master password AIUI.  And frankly a welcome 
> change. I think it happened in 77 or 78. 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1295314#answer-1333595 explains.
>> Perhaps someone can suggest a way to turn these random bits of text in the release 
>> notes into a way to get details because I am about done trying. 
>> My 6 hour venture today into V78 resulted in me back on 68 to stay I think. I can't 
>> make my profile work in 78. it just displays an empty non functional user interface.
> FWIW I would have stopped long before 6 hours and posted a question on Matrix, and 
> probably gotten quick help.
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