S/Mime usage

Phillip Hallam-Baker phill at hallambaker.com
Thu Oct 10 13:10:23 UTC 2019

The focus of any open source project is invariably what people are prepared
to work on.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:06 AM Will <will at impamark.co.uk> wrote:

> On 09/10/19 17:13, Kai Engert wrote:
> > On 08.10.19 20:28, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> >> What if Thunderbird was also an end-to-end secure chat client and it
> >> wasn't limited to a single service provider?
> > FYI, it already is. We support XMPP/Jabber and some others, and we're
> > also close to shipping OTR, but we aren't yet ready to announce it.
> > Hopefully in a few weeks we'll do a call for testing.
> With the issues we have experienced around a half baked new API and all
> the other issues related to add ons, we'd like to know why TB is
> spending presumably a lot of resources on chat client encryption?
> TB is an email client right?
> Why don't you concentrate on getting that bit right first?
> There are mountains of unfixed bugs, APIs that are a mess, add ons that
> we can't get to work and could do with help, and you are messing around
> with chats and OTR?
> Exactly what is the direction of travel for TB? Replace email with chat?
> You are so late to that party.................
> We don't need it - we already have a good chat system, with OTR if we
> want it, and a pile of other functionality. Quite simply there are
> already much better systems out there.
> Chat in TB is just a waste of CPU and coding cycles IMHO. Beyond a
> cursory look we have never used it. I'd rather see it dumped completely.
> Obviously this has all been discussed behind closed doors? Why isn't the
> community consulted about this sort of thing, or is it paying clients only?
> <shakeshead>
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