Re: Thunderbird’s future: a modern addressbook
neandr at gmx.de
Fri Mar 16 23:25:42 UTC 2018
seems there are some misunderstanding of what I posted, I would like to
ask you to read my post again.
First I never frowned or blamed CardBook as a possible solution. As with
every other contribution it has to be allowed to discuss controversial.
And Philippe himself gave some critical notes about his solution.
Personally I think it's a good addon.
It's my understanding the project for a new TB/AB was in the discussion
like this ...
> It's intended to serve as a technical experiment for a rewrite using
> web technologies
I hope the new Council will widen it's view with that project. It should
use web technologies to replace legacy technologies (XUL etc) where ever
possible. The recent mail "[Maildev] The XUL tree widget - where is the
replacement work?" shows there is much movement required!
My point was not to point to technologies only, but to how the world
changed for UI and UX. A development for a new TB/AB has to look also
for approaches coming from other than desktop implementations to build a
modern new TB/AB.
On 15.03.18 01:49, Eyal Rozenberg wrote:
> A couple of comments:
> On 3/15/18 12:04 AM, neandr wrote:
>> 3. A modern addressbook (using web technologies) should overcome legacy
>> layout ideas. Clearly our legacy TB/AB UI is bound to a desktop
> This again? Haven't we straightened this out yet? The address book,
> just like Thunderbird itself, has, is, and will be a desktop
> application. That's not a legacy to be overcome.
> If I caught the drift of the discussion on this point a few weeks ago:
> * There has been no decision mandating Thunderbird to become/include a
> client for mobile phones
> * There isn't a majority of people who think this is necessary
> * There's a large minority, if not a majority, of people who think
> it's a bad idea
> >> It's intended to serve as a technical experiment for a rewrite
> >> using web technologies
> > Clearly Cardbook doesn't fulfill this point.
> > ...
>> If a new-TB/AB project is meant "to serve as a
>> technical experiment" we should experiment also with alternative
>> layouts and handling, not only bound to mouse and menu and pulldown
>> and such. Do will need a full list/table to show the contacts?
>> Categories instead or additionally to Contact Lists (see also next
> For this reason I don't think CardBook should be frowned upon in any
> way as a potential piece of functionality to be integrated into
> Thunderbird _with_its_current_architecture_. That would be a
> functionality win with relatively limited effort, that would help
> create the breathing space to pursue a full-rewrite endeavor. IMHO.
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