Vision for Thunderbird

Axel Grude axel.grude at
Thu Mar 1 05:50:15 UTC 2018

I like these suggestions.

Another thing to consider for the default case: if we show the same appeal
to donation on the landing page it will soon not be perceived anymore. So
if it could change once in a while by having different layout / wording /
picture (?) - think of SEO principles of content fresh - it will make a
bigger impact.

Think of it as a squeeze page without stopping the user from doing their


On 1 Mar 2018 00:25, "harry" <harry_cube at> wrote:

> Am 28.02.2018 um 17:40 schrieb Eyal Rozenberg:
> * The vast majority of Thunderbird users don't even know that their
> contribution is desirable, let alone significant.
> I have already mentioned this here before:
> if Thunderbird wants to secure that donations keep coming in, there should
> definitely  be taken a little effort to advertise that TB needs those
> donations.
> As of now, *you can use TB for years and years, and still not know that a
> donation would be appreciated.*
> I, for instance, have more often made donations to the "Document
> foundation" (LibreOffice) than I did to  Thunderbird because they ask for
> donations after each update. It is easier for them, though, because the
> update can' t be done as background process, but the download has to be
> done manually, so it is easy to show the donation page to the user.
> I have just checked, and found something that was new to me:   actually,
> the   donation page /start page
> de&version=52.6.0&os=WINNT&buildid=20180123185941
> *is* being displayed at each start of TB (if not unchecked in the
> settings) - but only if one uses the messagepane of TB. I Actually, I use
> only 2 panes (with the messagepane being "pushed down"and the content  of a
> message not visible until opened - and I have always used it this way).
> So, considering quite some others may use TB in the same way, it could be
> a good idea to display the donation page* *after each update process of
> TB*- * in the same way as the "new version fixes" are being displayed as
> of now. That is, in a separate tab or a separate window. Also, this page  "
>" could need a little overhaul
> - I can only speak for the German Version of this web page.  While the page
> isn't really badly written, it seems to be a translation from the English
> page and doesn't really sound inspiring to me.
> I wouldn't consider this is to be too intrusive, nor think that it would
> be not well received by a significant number of users. It should be made
> very clear, though, that one won't loose any functionality if he doesn't
> donate - in order to not annoy users.
>  I would rather consider it a wasted chance for the future of TB if the
> donation issue wasn't given more attention.
> Harry
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