Thunderbird Governance 2018 - Council Elections

neandr neandr at
Fri Nov 10 18:47:58 UTC 2017

FMPOV the 2017 process was handle very professional -- thanks to Gerv 
and Ben (and others I missed to mention here) -- so there should be no 
concern to repeat the same process with the next elections.

Not sure what the next steps for the TB Council 2018 elections are.
Today Mozilla dropped a Discource message \1\ which could lead to a 
little changed process.
As they did, also TB Council candidates should be asked to not only 
introduce them self, but give answers to some of the burning questions 
Thunderbird is faced with. Like as a product / a open source project, 
it's future and how he/she see the "home" of TB. For sure not a complete 
list, but all candidates should answer to the same questions. This would 
expand the Thunderbird Council Elections 2017 List \2\ with point 3.

Gerv just posted ..
> My proposal would be to make sure, in good time, we have a
> wider discussion about where to find contributors and how to evaluate
> their contributions, so we can have a better go at defining an
> appropriately-broad electorate.
.. that's a big +1 with me.

I felt with the 2016 election process there have been some "external" 
people applying for the council, but the community -- afair -- decided 
against those candidates. Wouldn't it be great to add a broader view to 
the Council? I hope for that!



On 09.11.2017 22:01, Goverenance TB wrote:
> The Thunderbird Council 
> <> is 
> asking the community for feedback about Thunderbird governance, which 
> will be considered in designing the future of the council.  We 
> encourage you to help publicize this effort by posting this message in 
> its entirety in other venues frequented by Thunderbird users.
> We are splitting our requests for feedback into manageable pieces, 
> each of which will cover different aspects of governance. This is the 
> first message of a short series over the coming weeks. This first 
> request is for feedback specifically on the *method of conducting 
> elections*.  Future messages will cover other topics, for example 
> composition of the Council.
> Background - Past Elections
> The following is a summary of past elections.  To date three councils 
> have been elected, each using a different process.  In 2014 the first 
> Thunderbird Council of seven was elected 
> <> 
> by a typical nomination process of those present and simple majority 
> vote at a fall summit meeting of 22 very active Thunderbird contributors.
> In fall 2015 discussion began in tb-planning for the second council, 
> in such subjects as  "Council Elections" and "Reorganizing the 
> Council", with a goal of having the community elect the council. 
>  Voting in February 2016 used the following process 
> <>, 
> "The existing Council will serve as a nominating committee, and 
> recruit candidates who agree to serve on a renewed Council. (This 
> could be existing Council members or new people.) This slate of 
> candidates would then be presented to tb-planning for a single vote 
> [by anyone active on tb-planning], much like the one a year ago, to 
> see if there is consensus.".  The slate and voting process was 
> announced 
> <>, 
> and the results also posted on tb-planning 
> <>.
> In 2017 the third council election process 
> <> 
> established a public list of electors, who are active project 
> contributors per criteria defined by the Council.  Electors discussed 
> on the tb-election mailing list, and then nominated and voted to seat 
> seven council members using “ranked choice” with the STV method. 
> Results were announced on tb-planning 
> <>. 
> The election was run by volunteers who were not members of the 
> council. The council was pleased with the results, and there were no 
> major complaints from the community.
> 2018 Elections
> In this message we are looking for your feedback on the 2018 election 
> process, namely nominating and voting for council members.  Feedback 
> will be reviewed by the council, the results summarized back to the 
> community and used by the Thunderbird Council to inform the process to 
> be used in the 2018 election.Please send feedback (idea or concern) 
> with subject "Thunderbird Governance 2018 - Council Elections" (the 
> subject of this email) to governance at, *NOT 
> tb-planning*. Please formulate your feedback as a problem statement 
> <>, 
> with or without a potential solution.
> For example, you might offer feedback on defining the electorate, as 
> in the past this has been a challenging aspect of the process.
> "The electorate of 2017, while being inclusive, did not include 
> population X, and they should be included because of reason Y. And 
> here is how you might identify or define this population...”
> Additionally, we encourage you to respond if you think the previous 
> procedure used was adequate, so we can properly gauge the opinion of 
> the community for electing the Council.
> Please send your response by Monday November 20.  Please post this 
> message in its entirety in other venues frequented by Thunderbird users.
> Thank you for your interest in Thunderbird.
> The Thunderbird Council
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