Why does the Thunderbird team care so less about macOS users?

Ben Bucksch ben.bucksch at beonex.com
Mon Jun 5 22:59:08 UTC 2017

I think he meant "so little" (not "so less").

Mac is a different platform with different customs. The Mac philosophy 
is that the entire system is tightly integrated, so users expect the 
support of the latest features like Retina or Touchbar, and developers 
usually are quick to supply it.

If your operating system had a cross-application search function that is 
actually useful and that you use regularly, you'd consider that a base 
feature and you'd be unhappy about it not working in Thunderbird. 
Insofar, I can understand Nomis101.

That said, if there are no Mac developers, then there won't be special 
Mac support, that's for sure :-). It's actually amazing that Thunderbird 
on Mac still works, considering we have nobody to fix it when it breaks.


ace wrote on 05.06.2017 19:28:
> Hi,
> sorry, but I do not see where this "caring less" comes from. Hooking
> into optional platform features that are only available on one platform
> is not caring less. If Mac hadn't even the features implemented on other
> platforms, that would be something to be unhappy about. E.g. like
> Firefox can't get HW (GPU) acceleration on Linux going for years, while
> it is long working on Windows (if not OS X too).
> Of the list you mentioned, maybe the Spotlight support should be fixed
> up, considering there is also a Search integration on Windows (albeit
> with dubious quality too and we have actually hidden it now). But I see
> no bug filed about Spotlight not working at all.
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>> Yes, I'm using Thunderbird on macOS now since over 15 years, but since
>> than I'm a bit disappointed about the slender macOS support. In the
>> meantime it seems to me, the Thunderbird team does not care so much
>> about macOS users. For example:
>> • Thunderbird is shipping on macOS with a broken Spotlight plugin since
>> 3 years now and nobody seems to care
>> • Thunderbird is completely lacking the support of gestures, which are
>> available since 9 years on macOS now
>> • Thunderbird is completely lacking the QuickLook feature, which is
>> available on macOS since 9 years as well
>> • Thunderbird on macOS has support of the macOS address book since 14
>> years, but until than it is still an unfinished "draft" support (you
>> could rise a child by that time).  It only can read out the macOS
>> address book, nothing more.
>> • On all other apps on macOS you have advanced spellchecking support,
>> with suggestions, multi-language support and so on. But not on Thunderbird.
>> This only names the mayor things Thunderbird is behind most other mail
>> apps on macOS. In short, Thunderbird supports this macOS features which
>> are included in Core, but it is not really using own ones and the ones
>> which are included in Mail or Mailnews are either unfinished or broken.
>> So, it is really difficult to convince people on macOS to switch to
>> Thunderbird. I'm wondering why the Thunderbird team cares so less about
>> macOS users. Is it because Thunderbird has more Windows users than macOS
>> users? Is it because of the lack of macOS developers? Or what is it?
>> Being part of a macOS user forum, I know that more than a few users are
>> looking for alternatives to Apple Mail. So we are missing opportunity
>> here if we are not supporting even the minimum a modern macOS user would
>> expect from an email application.
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