Help decide the UI for showing untagged messages in the Quick Filter

Axel Grude axel.grude at
Sat Oct 1 03:58:32 UTC 2016

I would have voted for 1a as having 2 buttons is clearly confusing. However
I am not quite sure about the icon (a crossed out label) does it mean "show
only mails without labels" and does it mean we need a dibble negative to
see posts with. If the button has somewhat complicated logic with more than
2 states attached I would like to have a textual drop down added to it
rather than relying on a icon only top communicate its current status.


On 13 Sep 2016 04:33, "Jim" <squibblyflabbetydoo at> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Jörg Knobloch <jorgk at> wrote:
>> In bug 683809[1], we've had a hard time agreeing on the best UI for
>> showing untagged messages in the Quick Filter. As such, we're putting it to
>> a vote. If you're reading this, please take the poll (it's only one
>> question!) and give us your feedback:
>> The picture is rather detailed, it can be viewed in its original size
>> here [2]. The picture shows how a user would have to use the proposed new
>> button/buttons to see the following sets of messages: "All messages", "All
>> tagged", "Some tagged", "Untagged only" and "Untagged + some tagged".
> Can I vote "None of the above"? All of the options are difficult to
> understand, although 1 is closer to comprehensible than the others. In
> fact, I'd say this is going in completely the wrong direction, since the
> ability to filter on "not X" applies to *all* of the quick filter items,
> not just tags. Just as you may want to see untagged messages, you might
> also want to see read messages or messages not from one of your contacts. I
> would recommend an implementation that addresses all of these at once
> (perhaps tri-state buttons for all of the main filter buttons?). The
> proposed implementation seems to be pulling us away from this, which is
> short-sighted in my opinion.
> More generally, I disagree on the need to see untagged messages alongside
> ones that have a specific set of tags. It should be straightforward to
> perform two filter actions, first for the untagged messages, and second for
> the tagged ones.
> - Jim
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