Donation -- how to tell

R Kent James kent at
Thu May 19 20:59:33 UTC 2016

I tried this with Paypal, and I got the message:

"De la part de l’équipe Thunderbird Merci"

which indicates this was a Thunderbird donation. But no Mailchimp link.
Not sure why - maybe the Paypal path does not support the Mailchimp pathway?


On 5/19/2016 1:28 PM, Vincent wrote:
> Hi,
> I just give 10€ from and I
> got a confirmation message which seems to indicated I have donated to
> Mozilla Firefox, not Thunderbird:
>     /Merci énormément pour votre don à Mozilla. Grâce à cette
>     contribution financière, nous poursuivrons notre mission visant à
>     créer et protéger un Web ouvert./
>     /Nous pensons qu'Internet est bien plus qu'une technologie ; il
>     s'agit d'une ressource publique./
>     /Merci encore pour tout ce que vous faites pour Mozilla. Ensemble,
>     nous ferons en sorte que le Web reste ouvert, accessible,
>     transparent et sûr./
>     /Mark Surman
>     Directeur exécutif
>     Mozilla Foundation/
> Also, I do not see any mailchimp suscribe form at the end of the process.
> Maybe this is because I use a french link instead of the en-us link?
> 2016-05-17 0:00 GMT+02:00 R Kent James <kent at
> <mailto:kent at>>:
>     On 5/16/2016 1:10 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>     > First, I think it is great that this is happening, and while I
>     > understand that what I'm about to say it much easier said than
>     done...
>     >
>     > If users actually had positive feedback that their donations were
>     > actually being used to make Thunderbird better, I think that
>     donations
>     > would grow consistently over time, first through repeat
>     donations, but
>     > also from others who maybe took a wait and see attitude.
>     >
>     > Transparency in the accounting process will accomplish this to a
>     great
>     > degree, but another way that is maybe even more a 'feel good'
>     way, would
>     > be if a way were provided to allow for 'directed donations' -
>     meaning,
>     > donations, but that were directed to be used to implement a certain
>     > bug/feature. These could be incorporated in the Bug Tracker,
>     allowing
>     > people to donate directly from there.
>     >
>     > Of course, for these, it would have to be understood that your money
>     > goes into a special account, and if the linked bug/feature is
>     still open
>     > after a given amount of time (say, a year), then your money goes
>     into
>     > the general fund - otherwise, it counts against the bug/feature.
>     >
>     > So, these donations are made knowing that they might not go
>     toward the
>     > purpose you wanted, but at least you could try.
>     >
>     > It would be a much more meaningful way to 'vote' too, and this way
>     > people could actually brag about having helped pay to implement
>     feature
>     > X or fix bug Y...
>     There has been a lot of discussion in the past about this. The issue
>     generally is that typically money is needed mostly for overhead
>     activities such as build engineering, QA, hosting costs, etc, that
>     users
>     do not fully appreciate. The challenge is to present the
>     opportunity to
>     give in a way that motivates users, without creating the
>     impression that
>     their money is actually going to be given toward something
>     specific that
>     they can know and understand.
>     Part of my answer to the issue that you have raised though is to
>     create
>     a mailing list that we will use to collect feedback from donors.
>     Subscribing to this mailing list is offered at the end of the donation
>     process. Long-term my hope is that we can engage with donors
>     there, and
>     give them the chance to provide feedback, and seriously listen to that
>     feedback. I still have dreams of having a strong Thunderbird users
>     group
>     (Thundernest) that would have a major role in determining the
>     future of
>     Thunderbird, and funding it.
>     At this point in time though, I am much more interested in concrete
>     offers to help with specific aspects of the donation process than I am
>     suggestions on how to proceed. The specifics of what we do are not
>     nearly as important as actually doing something. Thanks Magnus and
>     Jorg
>     for working on the donation link issues in Thunderbird directly,
>     now we
>     really need help with the start page redesign in Django on Bedrock.
>     :rkent
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> -- 
> Vincent (caméléon)
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