Thunderbird and Pretty Easy Privacy - current status

Axel Grude axel.grude at gmail.com
Fri Feb 26 08:27:48 UTC 2016


Dear Patrick,
could  you provide a download link? I would like to try again (unfortunately I lost my 
passphrase so I had to wait until my keyring revocation period expired) and maybe I 
can give some feedback on ease of / UX improvements if you like.


Axel

> *Subject:* Re: Thunderbird and Pretty Easy Privacy - current status
> *From: *Patrick Cloke
> *To:* Tb-planning
> *Sent: *Thursday, 25/02/2016 20:20:41 20:20 GMT ST +0000 [Week 8]
> Ben,
>
> I'm not sure if you've been following the conversation, but the points
> you've brought up have been discussed in depth before.
>
> On 2/25/16 2:35 PM, Ben Bucksch wrote:
> > Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 25.02.2016 16:09:
> >> But, and this is most important, PEP "only" provides services that are
> >> a) invisible to users, and
> >> b) quite easily pluggable into an application via a clearly defined API.
> >
> > Backdoors and insecure designs are invisible, too :).
> >
> > This needs serious investigation - on protocol design and code level -
> > before we can integrate it.
> >
> > We'll also need review from a wide crypto community.
> We (the Thunderbird community) recognize this and also recognize that
> we're not crypto experts (i.e. we're not in a place to do this).
>
> > Gervase Markham wrote on 25.02.2016 16:59:
> >> True, but it's hard to evaluate something you've never seen.
> >
> > Exactly. That's my point.
> >
> > The 2 projects should rather approach each other and work together,
> > and in the process build mutual trust, than TB kicking back and
> > waiting for a finished PEP product, and then simply saying yay/nay.
> > That's not likely to be a fruitful process, IMHO.
> We've been in discussions with pEp and have had conversations with them
> about their technology. The keyword in the statement was an *alpha*
> version. This implies that there is still time to change
> direction/influence designs.
>
> Note that some of us did see a version of pEp's software for Outlook
> last fall, but how exactly it would work within Thunderbird has not been
> discussed as a detailed plan nor as a prototype.
>
> --Patrick
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