Do only 28 people care about the future of Thunderbird? Please vote!

Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA) vseerror at lehigh.edu
Thu Feb 25 20:18:01 UTC 2016


Ditto.  I've not seen a strong enterprise agenda, much less an 
enterprise vs consumer agenda.

On 2/25/2016 2:31 PM, Patrick Cloke wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I haven't felt that the Council is trying to make Thunderbird an
> enterprise email client. Not really sure where you got that idea.
>
> --Patrick
>
> On 2/25/16 1:37 PM, Jim wrote:
>> For what it's worth, I intentionally chose not to vote because I have
>> no real opinion one way or the other. It seems to me that my goals for
>> Thunderbird differ pretty strongly from the Council (I don't really
>> believe in making Thunderbird an enterprise mail client, whereas the
>> Council seems much more open to the idea), but I don't feel that's
>> enough to vote "No". I suppose I could send in a vote that explicitly
>> says "No opinion", but I'm not sure that actually contributes in any
>> real way.
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:47 AM, R Kent James <kent at caspia.com
>> <mailto:kent at caspia.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     As of yesterday, according to Gerv only 28 people had cast a vote
>>     in the ongoing process to confirm a reorganized Thunderbird
>>     Council. That is a turnout of less than 15% of the people eligible
>>     to vote, and that is too few.
>>
>>     I strongly encourage you to participate in this voting process.
>>     I've copied Gerv's instructions below. You have less than two days
>>     to do this!
>>
>>     :rkent
>>
>>     On 2/16/2016 4:24 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
>>
>>         The following message gives the arrangements for the approval
>>         vote for
>>         the new Thunderbird Council.
>>
>>         Do NOT send votes to tb-planning.
>>
>>         Timing
>>         ------
>>
>>         Voting opens at 00:00:01 UTC on Saturday 20th February. The
>>         deadline
>>         for sending votes is 23:59:59 UTC on Friday 26rd February, one
>>         week later.
>>
>>         This may be delayed in the unlikely event that Mozilla IT
>>         don't set up
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>>
>>         Motion
>>         ------
>>
>>         Voters will be approving or rejecting the following motion:
>>
>>         "The Thunderbird community endorses the following list of
>>         candidates to
>>         form a Thunderbird Council and lead the project until either
>>         a) one year
>>         has elapsed from the date this motion passes, or b) an
>>         organizational
>>         home is chosen and a new governance model is put in place. A
>>         condition
>>         of approval is that, in the case of b), the new Council commits to
>>         working in good faith with the new organizational home to
>>         implement
>>         governance arrangements which are acceptable to that
>>         organization, in a
>>         timely fashion. Or, if the organization has no governance
>>         requirements,
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>>         reform process.
>>
>>         If vacancies arise on the Council during its period of office, the
>>         Council may leave them unfilled, or fill them using a
>>         mechanism of its
>>         own choosing.
>>
>>         The list of candidates is:
>>
>>         Florian Quèze
>>         Joshua Cranmer
>>         Jörg Knobloch
>>         Kent James
>>         Magnus Melin
>>         Matt Harris
>>         Patrick Cloke
>>         Philipp Kewisch
>>         Wayne Mery"
>>
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