Do only 28 people care about the future of Thunderbird? Please vote!

Ludovic Hirlimann ludovic at
Thu Feb 25 18:18:18 UTC 2016

I got a manual one that I had not voted with the proper email address :)


On 25/02/2016 19:11, Tanstaafl wrote:
> I voted, but never got any notification of the receipt of my vote.
> Should I have? If not, why wasn't this done? It is easy to send an
> auto-response saying 'Thanks for your vote!'...
> On 2/25/2016 12:47 PM, R Kent James <kent at> wrote:
>> As of yesterday, according to Gerv only 28 people had cast a vote in the 
>> ongoing process to confirm a reorganized Thunderbird Council. That is a 
>> turnout of less than 15% of the people eligible to vote, and that is too 
>> few.
>> I strongly encourage you to participate in this voting process. I've 
>> copied Gerv's instructions below. You have less than two days to do this!
>> :rkent
>> On 2/16/2016 4:24 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
>>> The following message gives the arrangements for the approval vote for
>>> the new Thunderbird Council.
>>> Do NOT send votes to tb-planning.
>>> Timing
>>> ------
>>> Voting opens at 00:00:01 UTC on Saturday 20th February. The deadline
>>> for sending votes is 23:59:59 UTC on Friday 26rd February, one week later.
>>> This may be delayed in the unlikely event that Mozilla IT don't set up
>>> the voting email address in time.
>>> Motion
>>> ------
>>> Voters will be approving or rejecting the following motion:
>>> "The Thunderbird community endorses the following list of candidates to
>>> form a Thunderbird Council and lead the project until either a) one year
>>> has elapsed from the date this motion passes, or b) an organizational
>>> home is chosen and a new governance model is put in place. A condition
>>> of approval is that, in the case of b), the new Council commits to
>>> working in good faith with the new organizational home to implement
>>> governance arrangements which are acceptable to that organization, in a
>>> timely fashion. Or, if the organization has no governance requirements,
>>> the Council commits to consult on and implement a governance reform process.
>>> If vacancies arise on the Council during its period of office, the
>>> Council may leave them unfilled, or fill them using a mechanism of its
>>> own choosing.
>>> The list of candidates is:
>>> Florian Quèze
>>> Joshua Cranmer
>>> Jörg Knobloch
>>> Kent James
>>> Magnus Melin
>>> Matt Harris
>>> Patrick Cloke
>>> Philipp Kewisch
>>> Wayne Mery"
>>> Eligibility
>>> -----------
>>> Eligible voters are those who were subscribed to tb-planning as of 27th
>>> January 2016, or who are unsubscribed now but have posted to the list in
>>> 2015 or 2016.
>>> Voting Process
>>> --------------
>>> Voting will be by secret ballot. To vote, please send an email to:
>>> thunderbird-vote at
>>> from the email address which is subscribed to tb-planning at
>>> Votes must clearly indicate "Yes" or "No", in English. Unclear votes
>>> will be disregarded. The last clear vote from any voter before the
>>> deadline will be the one accepted.
>>> Submission email addresses will be checked against the tb-planning
>>> subscriber list for an _exact_ (case-insensitive) match. If you are
>>> claiming eligibility based on previous interactions rather than current
>>> subscription, you must include a link to a Google Group archived message
>>> that you posted to the list (from the email address you are voting with)
>>> on or after 1st January 2015.
>>> The scrutineers will examine the message to attempt to determine the
>>> sending date and time, but it is advised that you not vote close to the
>>> deadline. The last-dated clear vote from any address will be counted.
>>> Individual voters should not attempt to vote from more than one
>>> subscribed address; anyone caught doing so will be publicly named.
>>> Voters may choose, if they wish, to sign their votes using email signing
>>> technology.
>>> Counting and Reporting
>>> ----------------------
>>> The email address above sends copies of the voting emails to the
>>> scrutineers, Gervase Markham and Ben Bucksch, who has kindly agreed to
>>> serve in this capacity alongside me. Both scrutineers commit to keeping
>>> the votes confidential.
>>> Once the deadline passes, the scrutineers will independently count the
>>> votes, and in case of a difference, reconcile the discrepancy until they
>>> are as agreed as possible. They will then report the result to the
>>> tb-planning mailing list, giving:
>>> * Number of Yes votes
>>> * Number of No votes
>>> * Number of votes discounted due to being unclear
>>> * Number of votes discounted due to voter ineligibility
>>> * Number of votes discounted due to being late or early
>>> * Number of votes discounted because the two scrutineers could not
>>>    agree on a determination
>>> The motion shall be considered passed if the number of Yes votes
>>> strictly exceeds the number of No votes. If the number of votes in the
>>> final category listed above is equal to or greater than the margin of
>>> victory, the ballot shall be re-run.
>>> Gerv
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