Bad PR

Axel Grude axel.grude at
Thu Sep 17 12:52:45 UTC 2015

Might not be a bad idea to draw some attention, because it shows that the Thunderbird 
group cares about this. I commented on their fb page.

And also I believe a point by point refutation would be a great thing (do we have a 
Thunderbird blog?).

I want to start a mail Youtube channel (mainly discussing Addons and Thunderbird 
usability topics) if I had a point by point discussion I wouldn't mind making a video 
on it.


*Axel Grude <mailto:axel.grude at>*
Software Developer
Thunderbird Add-ons Developer (QuickFolders, quickFilters, QuickPasswords, Zombie 
Keys, SmartTemplate4)
AMO Editor Get Thunderbird!

> *Subject:* Re: Bad PR
> *To:* Tb-planning
> *From: *Mihovil Stanić
> *Sent: *Thursday, 17/09/2015 13:21:26 13:21 GMT ST +0100 [Week 37]
> If it's offline issue, it's easier to just let it go. Promoting it on facebook, blog 
> etc. will just bring more attention to it.
> Mihovil
> 17.09.2015 u 14:18, Philipp Kewisch je napisao/la:
>> I'm not sure how other think about it, but if this is a big magazine,
>> then maybe we should think about requesting an official correction to be
>> printed in their next issue. I don't know if Mozilla Legal/PR would be
>> willing to take over making that request or if we need to do this on our
>> own.
>> Philipp
>> On 9/17/15 2:02 PM, Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA) wrote:
>>> Turning the tables, I think it could be argued that "However, it’s
>>> [the article] so full of inaccuracies that perhaps the over-zealous
>>> author should move on to a tabloid."  (Or perhaps we should blame the
>>> editor rather than the author.)
>>> It's not worth the time going over point by point how literally almost
>>> *every* point is inaccurate or sensationalized.
>>> On 9/17/2015 1:00 AM, Eric Moore wrote:
>>>> From:
>>>> The latest issue of Computer Active has "*Software YOU MUST UNINSTALL
>>>> NOW! The 12 worst programs EXPOSED! page 50.*" splashed on the cover.
>>>> One of those programs is Thunderbird. Supposedly its the UK's
>>>> best-selling computer magazine.
>>>> /Let Thunderbird fly//
>>>> //Mozilla’s email program Thunderbird needs so many security fixes it’s
>>>> no longer worth using//
>>>> //52 16 – 29 September 2015//
>>>> //
>>>> //Email program Thunderbird used to be almost as popular as its sister
>>>> browser Firefox, also made by Mozilla. But while Firefox is holding its
>>>> own (just) against stiff competition, poor old Thunderbird has been shot
>>>> down and is full of holes. Look at Mozilla’s list of security advisories
>>>> for Thunderbird (//, and check back
>>>> regularly if you’re a Thunderbird user. It makes for an alarming read.
>>>> ‘Arbitrary file overwriting’, ‘Miscellaneous memory safety hazards’,
>>>> ‘Privilege escalation through Web Notification’ (a flaw that gives any
>>>> passing hacker more privileges than you) – and all this in only the past
>>>> few months. Worryingly, some flaws keep reappearing despite regular
>>>> fixes. Really, is it worth it? We don’t think so. If you use
>>>> Thunderbird, export any data you want to keep and switch to a new email
>>>> service. It’s a sad story. A few years ago, Thunderbird was considered a
>>>> safer alternative to Microsoft’s Outlook Express, which had more patches
>>>> than a Victorian quilt. Thunderbird was also faster, more innovative and
>>>> – quite frankly – cooler. But while Outlook has evolved into a
>>>> cross-platform tool whose free online version successfully borrows the
>>>> best elements of Gmail, including seamless integration with online tools
>>>> such as Office Online and Google Drive, Thunderbird is stuck in the
>>>> past. Some antivirus (AV) tools, including the excellent Norton Security
>>>> (// have even identified Thunderbird as a
>>>> Trojan (// This is a false-positive –
>>>> Thunderbird itself is not malicious. However, it’s so full of
>>>> vulnerabilities that perhaps these over-zealous AVs are wise to block
>>>> it.//
>>>> /Perhaps somebody could write a letter to the editor explaining how to
>>>> correctly interpret the security advisories, mention that most of them
>>>> are due to vulnerabilities found in Firefox (shared code), document why
>>>> we think that rather than dropping, that the number of Thunderbird users
>>>> continues to grow, and pushback on the idea that Thunderbird is stuck in
>>>> the past.
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