The Case for Thunderbird in Mozilla

Benjamin Kerensa bkerensa at
Tue Sep 15 22:03:12 UTC 2015

I do not think Mark Surman could help if he wanted to I think you need to
send this letter to the Mozilla Board, Chair and MoCo CEO who have all the
power. Mark has power over grant based projects and does not have a
financial or legal team (both have their homes in MoCo)

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:30 PM, R Kent James <kent at> wrote:

> I've recently begun a major push to reach some sort of decision about the
> relationship of Thunderbird to Mozilla. Today I sent a letter to Mark
> Surman about that. Here's an excerpt:
> "Thunderbird needs to be given the opportunity to make a case to the
> Mozilla leadership of why we believe Thunderbird should continue to be an
> official product under the Mozilla brand. Let's get a decision. If Mozilla
> wants us, there a few things we need - such as a financial home for
> donations, and links on key websites. The Thunderbird community does not
> want to leave Mozilla, but in case Mozilla does not want us, we have had
> serious discussions with both Software Freedom Conservancy and The Document
> Foundation (home of LibreOffice) about possibly aligning ourselves with
> them. We are also large enough to exist successfully as a separately
> registered organization."
> A year ago we were in no position to have this discussion, but today the
> situation is much clearer. There are also serious threats to the viability
> of Thunderbird coming from the Mozilla platform that are going to take
> significant resources to mitigate. We have the ability to manage that, but
> we don't have a financial and legal home that provides us the structure to
> move forward. It is time to move forward with our donation campaign and
> other fund-raising initiatives, yet we have no current structure under
> Mozilla to do that.
> I sincerely believe that it is in the best interest of both the
> Thunderbird Community as well as Mozilla that we continue to be part of the
> Mozilla family of products. But the decision is not up to me, it is up to
> the Mozilla leadership. We need an actual decision, and some sort of
> understanding of our official status within Mozilla that gives us the
> flexibility to operate.
> What I would appreciate at this point are comments on what are the reasons
> that Mozilla should accept Thunderbird as an official project, presumably
> under the Mozilla Foundation, that provides us with the structure that we
> need to succeed. Please help me make The Case for Thunderbird in Mozilla.
> R. Kent James
> Chair, Thunderbird Council
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Benjamin Kerensa
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