Thunderbird Discussions with Mozilla (was Marketing Module)

Benjamin Kerensa bkerensa at gmail.com
Fri Jan 9 02:50:26 UTC 2015


On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 1/8/2015 4:57 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>
>> One of the reasons I encourage asking for funding is because at the very
>> least Mozilla through Mitchell did make the suggestion that Mozilla would
>> continue to provide a team of staff to support Thunderbird but those staff
>> were also on other teams so did not really have the time to put into the
>> product that was really promised.
>>
>
> The sense I have gotten is that Mozilla, at present, is not interested in
> supporting paid stuff for Thunderbird, whatever their messages of 2 years
> ago.
>
>> Joshua as far as the things you ask it would be good to have answers to
>> the questions to and probably sooner than later but I also want to point
>> out some of those things are courtesies and were never suggested that they
>> would be offered or done so some of them we may need to just deal with
>> which would be unfortunate.
>>
>
> I mentioned that I was sad that some of these things needed to be
> explicit, and one of the main reasons is that you would think that common
> courtesy would suggest that they should be done. I have gotten the sense
> that, over the past few years, the Mozilla community has become more
> hostile and discourteous. Concretely, I now actively avoid trying to
> mention that my use cases are in comm-central because I've seen too often
> that mentioning comm-central causes other developers to promptly ignore
> everything I say or ask. I was actually considering bringing this to the
> attention of people who might be able to do something about it, but I don't
> know who that may be (contributor engagement? except there I really fear
> that comm-central = go away).


In those cases I would always suggest talking to one of the Community
Stewards when interaction becomes hostile. I think things have become this
way but perhaps as a result of Mozilla hiring more and more startup types
and less people with community and open source backgrounds.
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