Thunderbird Discussions with Mozilla (was Marketing Module)

Axel Grude axel.grude at
Wed Jan 7 22:51:21 UTC 2015

I think it's all good,  can we somehow give our unanimous thoughts on that
it would be good to stay under the Mozilla organization and its core values
on a free (as in freedom) and open Web? I feel it is important to state
that the community hasn't lost faith with the main Mozilla mission and that
we think that the larger Firefox community and the smaller Thunderbird
community can both thrive and gain from collaboration. I can't put it into
great words but I hope you know what I mean.

On 7 Jan 2015 22:18, "Kent James" <kent at> wrote:

> I've considered the issue of starting discussions with Mozilla management
> to be my responsibility, and I was waiting until January to do it (after
> management got past the Yahoo search issues and Mozlandia). But now is the
> time (if I can just quit working on maildir a little).
> So the next step is to prepare a letter to key Mozilla managers saying
> what Thunderbird needs from Mozilla. I have not thought a great deal about
> it yet, but briefly issues that we have discussed include:
> 1) A financial home within Mozilla, from which we could collect and
> disburse funds (for example for the conference the bkerensa is suggesting).
> 2) Permission to use an in-product donation campaign, similar to what
> Firefox just did, to raise money specifically for the Thunderbird project.
> Ideally we could use the same staff who just did the Firefox campaign.
> 3) Designated Mozilla staff person who would be available to disburse any
> needed permissions that the Thunderbird volunteers need to run the project.
> This would include the right to authorize expenditures from our account,
> access to Thunderbird usage data and metrics, and access to legal and
> business documentation associated with Thunderbird partner organizations.
> 4) Some sort of official statement from Mozilla about Thunderbird's status
> within the organization. I'm not exactly sure what I am looking for here,
> but I have a sense that Mozilla staff don't really know how they should
> react to Thunderbird anymore. We are not looking for Mozilla to fund our
> activities, but we do need some recognition from Mozilla that Thunderbird
> is an ongoing, important project that needs occasional interaction with
> different parts of Mozilla.
> 5) Recognition that the formal leadership of Thunderbird now resides with
> the Thunderbird Council, and they can make most decisions concerning the
> project. Mozilla needs to specify the limits of that authority.
> Thoughts?
> :rkent
> On 1/7/2015 1:10 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> Was speaking to rkent today and he thought a Marketing Module might be a
>> good idea and I agree this would be a good way to better organize
>> our marketing efforts and processes going forward.
>> Do you all have thoughts on this? Also I am hoping TB Council is going
>> to have some discussions with MoCo/MoFo before the summer about funding
>> as I would like to have a TB booth at OSCON but this would require some
>> money since MoCo/MoFo does not make TB booth cloths or swag anymore afaik.
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