Google Summer of Code 2014 - Proposal to Improve Composer UI

Axel Grude (Axel) axel.grude at
Fri Feb 14 21:03:34 UTC 2014

> Gets my vote (or ckeditor ?) - can't stand the ribbon mess.
Maybe you should have hung in there... Messy or not people HTML mail users want an 
intuitive interface where they can easily use and define styles without having to know 
CSS. And you can only do this if you offer an interface that defines styles and is 
easily extendable. It is a typical thing to say "I do not like X" and "I like the look 
of that, because I know it" without looking at the actual requirements people have.

Replacing one interface with another which gives you the same basic functionality of 
inserting predefined tags was not what I was proposing. I am proposing full access to 
the powers that CSS gives and a very simple interface to redefine the css attributes 
without prior knowledge of CSS or HTML.

In the corporate sector people take this pretty much for granted. Click a style, 
define it, use it everywhere. Whether you call it Ribbon or have separate toolbars / 
areas / for the various styles is just a design detail, and can be maybe solved in a 
better way. however what we have now on the formatting bar is not good enough. And the 
markup it creates is not up to date, we do not want to create endless cascades of 
<font> <big> <small> etc, and put a lot of pain into making an email layout.

In its most minimal form imagine you can define <h1> with a default look (could be 
based on the tag or on a class) and you are able to reuse that on any email you write. 
The interface just has to be easy to use and enticing enough so people start using it 
and panels with preview styles are the most intuitive way to offer this to the users.

On 14/02/2014 15:31, John Crisp wrote:
> On 11/02/14 18:13, Tanstaafl wrote:
> > On 2014-02-08 4:33 PM, neandr at <neandr at> wrote:
> >> Also the composer (current, improved or replaced) has to be integrated
> >> very much with the rest of the TB code, /how about using an existing
> >> HTML composer and make it work with TB. /
> >
> > Something like:
> >
> >
> >
> Gets my vote (or ckeditor ?) - can't stand the ribbon mess. That's when
> I stopped using Office....
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