ISPDB configs without STARTTLS and/or SSL

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Sat Jan 19 16:13:35 UTC 2013

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Subject: Re: ISPDB configs without STARTTLS and/or SSL
From: Andrew Sutherland <asutherland at>
To: tb-planning at
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:49:47 -0500

> On 01/19/2013 10:10 AM, Ben Bucksch wrote:
>> However, without supporting plain (non-SSL) connections, you are going
>> to miss a huge amount of configs. Ditto with POP3.
> I think there remains a strong case for user privacy that we should not
> facilitate the use of unencrypted e-mail connections at all.  A similar,
> if less strong, case can be made for requiring valid SSL certificates. 
> There are free alternatives like gmail that are known to be, at the very
> least, competent.  And there are free SSL certificates available from
> StartCom and maybe others.

Just because the connection may be trustworthy, it does not mean the
provider is trustworthy. You can't think everybody will be happy with gmail.


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