Generating revenue for TB and "What do we need money for"

JoeS joesab2005 at
Fri Oct 5 03:22:11 UTC 2012

I once joked with my fellow workers:
"We have all this fun everyday, and you want to get paid too!!"
and another:
"You're hungry again..Hell, you just ate yesterday, didn't you?"

Absurdity made those jokes funny (I thought)

Contributions without compensation will always lead to. well..less 
Casual involvement in any venture leads to to stagnation.

Funding, and adequate compensation is vital.
I would suggest a trust fund for whatever moneys are collected from 
whatever means.
In the care of the folks that are most closely associated with the 
Thunderbird name.

It's not that I don't trust Mofo, but after all, It's they that decided 
to withdraw funding
Let's get the money first, then decide how to spend it.


On 10/4/2012 17:18, Kent James wrote:
> On 10/4/2012 1:36 PM, Axel wrote:
>> As long as management is not sorted out, I think it is rather 
>> pointless talking about distributing moneys...
> But I think that Mozilla's position is that the management has been 
> sorted out, and the management team is the list of mostly current or 
> ex Mozilla staff people that are the Thunderbird module owners who I 
> listed earlier.
> I'd like to ask a little forgiveness here, I feel like I am just 
> sniping at people instead of giving meaningful responses. If I might 
> summarize my position in a short response instead of sniping, it would 
> be this:
> I don't feel like that management structure, or the philosophy of 
> "money cannot be used to hire or contract additional developers" is 
> the best way forward, but I don't feel like my position is broadly 
> supported by key contributors or Mozilla. I find that enormously 
> frustrating. What */is/* the best way forward is an aggressive 
> approach to monetization that is used to fund further development and 
> other support activities, with the objective of moving Thunderbird 
> forward in various directions.
> So where do we spend the money? Doing what we have been doing, and 
> more. For that discussion to move forward we need to have a reasonable 
> hope of raising of the order of $1,000,000 per year, and I think that 
> is what people seriously doubt is possible. But I personally have a 
> hard time getting excited about an alternate plan that asks for me to 
> volunteer large amounts of time for the foreseeable future - yet 
> others are supposedly (or hopefully) willing to do so, which puts me 
> in an awkward, apparently minority position.
> :rkent
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