TB 17.0a2 -- UI consistency

Anne-Marie Bourcier abourcier at mozilla.com
Mon Oct 1 10:26:54 UTC 2012

My recommendation would be to place this AppMenu as per industry 
standards, but makes it "moveable".

Still ok to test different AppMenu contents?


On 29/09/2012 17:27, gneandr at web.de wrote:
> On 29.09.2012 15:35, Richard Marti wrote:
>> On 27.09.2012 17:39, Anne-Marie Bourcier wrote:
>>> - Changing the aging UI is probably a wise move and can keep TB looking
>>> "young" for a while,
>>> - replacing some of the current Menu bar content and place it under the
>>> AppMenu button sounds appealing. (I'm personally completely overwhelmed
>>> when I go through the current menus! remember I'm a "user"... not a
>>> developer - ad I don't give a cent to the Caracter Encoding, or Activity
>>> Manager :-) )...As long as we document somewhere that you can go back to
>>> your good old Menu bar with a right click;
>> Initially the left menu part was for the everyday (or almost everyday)
>> used items and the right part for the not so often used items. Initially
>> I would put only the most important items in it (a Test Pilot study
>> would helped here) but then I was outvoted to put all menu items from
>> main menu in the AppMenu.
>>> - In order to know if this AppMenu button is acceptable to a large
>>> number of users, a test would be really useful as each of us has a
>>> different view on the UI and the debate can last for few weeks
>>> - BUT I don't think that the actual AppMenu content/structure is
>>> appropriate... _from the perspective of a User_, it's very confusing and
>>> not logical (but you can argue this is MY opinion and I accept your
>>> comment here)
>>> - By consequence, I suggest the following:
>>>    * we take the current AppMenu content and call it Test A
>>>    * we reshuffle the content of the AppMenu and call it Test B (I've
>>>      suggestions already)
>>> And we (I with whoever wants to help) conduct 2 tests with 2 different
>>> groups of guinea pigs.
>>>      We check together it AppMenu A or AppMenu B gather more approvals
>>> than the other and then we retest the winner against more end-users.
>>>      If none of the AppMenu gets a positive scoring, then we have to
>>> decide what to do with this new UI proposal in TB17
>>> Having briefly discussed the point with Blake, I understand it might not
>>> be trivial but I think this is worth the pain.
>> As already noted, for TB 17 this is a little bit late, but maybe we
>> could adapt the menu for TB 17.1 (or how the intermediate release will
>> be named) or 24 according this tests.
>> Richard
> Maybe a easy going UI change -- but I think an important change for 
> the user acceptance -- would be the the AppMenu placement.
> See *Bug 795602* <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795602> 
> -"Appmenu" should permanently appear on "tabs-toolbar"
> Günter
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